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Mar 7 2022 03:28pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 7 2022 04:16pm)
Back in 1962 it was the other way around but people like you are never going to admit that installing weapon systems on Russia's border warrants the same kind of response.




Curb your faux outrage about a Jewish president it has nothing to do with it. You should have watched the BBC documentaries I posted before, you would have seen with your own eyes what's going on in Ukraine.

btw I found Gorbachev on video speaking out against NATO expansion he's calling it a big mistake and literally says you cannot humiliate a people and think it has no consequences. I suggest you watch it ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wB9uL2lKaw


WHY were weapons installed on Russia's border? WHY? that is the question. just for fun? because that's the 1 sided story you're telling.
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Mar 7 2022 03:32pm
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Mar 2022 21:16)
Back in 1962 it was the other way around but people like you are never going to admit that installing weapon systems on Russia's border warrants the same kind of response.
Curb your faux outrage about a Jewish president it has nothing to do with it. You should have watched the BBC documentaries I posted before, you would have seen with your own eyes what's going on in Ukraine.
btw I found Gorbachev on video speaking out against NATO expansion he's calling it a big mistake and literally says you cannot humiliate a people and think it has no consequences. I suggest you watch it ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wB9uL2lKaw


No one need your pro-putin-trump propaganda. You have to take a side and you have to bring proofs. Where is the treaty ?

Actually you got nothing else than you bad faith, cut video and denial that he later said;

"The topic of “NATO EXPANSION” was NOT discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility."

Tell me, why do you side with Putin ? Only because "nato did not respect its promises" ? Or maybe because you love "strong men" like Putin ? Hmm ?

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Mar 7 2022 04:43pm
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Mar 7 2022 04:49pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 7 2022 02:22pm)
Then you need to prove that my beef with what you said hinged on context. Hint: it didn't. The issue I had was in a general sense. It was not in any specific sense, in fact it doesn't even have to be related to international affairs at all.

Let me ask you this: what do you think is the difference between a promise and an "assurance"?


I don't get to tell you what gets your goat. I understand that the context matters, but whether it does to you is a matter of personal judgement.

The superpowers spent decades competing intensely, including in proxy wars all over the globe. The desire on our part to just be willing to watch them fail was real, the willingness to stick our necks out to help them wasn't. Presented with the opportunity to get an outright "win" by reuniting Germany, I can understand US diplomats brushing Soviet security concerns under the rug. When you're just trying to get them to come to the negotiating table, you might be willing to say things you're not authorized to say, because people higher than you make those calls.
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Mar 7 2022 04:51pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2022 02:49pm)
I don't get to tell you what gets your goat. I understand that the context matters, but whether it does to you is a matter of personal judgement.

The superpowers spent decades competing intensely, including in proxy wars all over the globe. The desire on our part to just be willing to watch them fail was real, the willingness to stick our necks out to help them wasn't. Presented with the opportunity to get an outright "win" by reuniting Germany, I can understand US diplomats brushing Soviet security concerns under the rug. When you're just trying to get them to come to the negotiating table, you might be willing to say things you're not authorized to say, because people higher than you make those calls.



I told you anarchy was the goal before and during Covid, you don't think they'll keep adding wars on top of plagues to achieve this?
They have the power to do this unfortunately, the question is how are you fortifying your living situations currently to prepare regardless?
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Mar 7 2022 04:57pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Mar 7 2022 04:51pm)
I told you anarchy was the goal before and during Covid, you don't think they'll keep adding wars on top of plagues to achieve this?
They have the power to do this unfortunately, the question is how are you fortifying your living situations currently to prepare regardless?


I have guns that I will use to collect my supplies from people without guns.
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Mar 7 2022 04:58pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2022 02:57pm)
I have guns that I will use to collect my supplies from people without guns.



that's a terrible plan.
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Mar 7 2022 04:58pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Mar 7 2022 04:58pm)
that's a terrible plan.


Especially for the people without guns.
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Mar 7 2022 05:02pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2022 02:58pm)
Especially for the people without guns.


And if they conceal and bluff you? you like Russian "RULEtte" too? Yikes.

Get an eclectic plan that doesn't involve stealing.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Mar 7 2022 05:02pm
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Mar 7 2022 05:08pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Mar 7 2022 05:02pm)
And if they conceal and bluff you? you like Russian "RULEtte" too? Yikes.

Get an eclectic plan that doesn't involve stealing.


Dude, I'm trolling.

I stack silver and stock the pantry with non-perishables like everyone else.
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