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what say did they(pal) have in the formation of israel? my main issue with israel is just about its inception. to talk about issues of today is difficult because life is weird and what can you do after certain facts.

i feel like as israel was being established they could've made attempts to create a nation that included both. as pal's/isr's are mainly just arabs anyway.

personally i feel like the aftermath of the european genocide should've resulted in european land being granted to them. idc really about pal or isr. im just interested in europe's thought process. allied forces liberate camps and save jews but they don't want them to live in europe, they want them in asia instead? germany was such a mess as well as a lot of eastern europe. a lot of the jews have lived in the areas for years as you can tell that even their genes have them just looking like white people. they don't resemble israeli jews one bit. so you'd think they'd rather stay in a european country than move to the desert. and there was plenty of real-estate for it as germany didn't even really exist.

but since that didn't happen and they got Israel instead, i don't get why it had to be an ethnostate. why there was no compromise for the current occupants of the land. displace/murder ~700k-1mil people or try to integrate them. i understand they have beef but so did USA/England, and look at us now. USA nuked Japan, look at us now. i dont get why other nations can have tensions and overcome it but when it comes to israel and palastein its somehow a special situation. the way israel was established was in a way that they wanted conflict. its almost as if it was all to fuck over palastinians/arab world and that the holocaust was never a factor.

i think what it really comes down to is that britain and USA played a huge role in Israel's formation. Britain/USA also has a lot of jewish people, not so many palestinians. so you have a country formed with the consultation of a bunch of people with special interests/agendas/biases. the region was poor, you had two groups of people living in poor conditions. but one of the groups had many european and american friends.


i think we just need to agree israel has a weird origin story, america has invested in it heavily. we should just annex the area and create a peaceful secular state for both peoples. wait until a peaceful government is in place and then leave.
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Quote (oRAnGeInAbOx @ May 20 2021 06:02pm)
i think we just need to agree israel has a weird origin story, america has invested in it heavily. we should just annex the area and create a peaceful secular state for both peoples. wait until a peaceful government is in place and then leave.


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brilliant plan that has never been tried before



usa has never annexed it afaik
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Quote (oRAnGeInAbOx @ May 20 2021 11:34pm)
usa has never annexed it afaik


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The stupid news propaganda that you were silly enough to believe is run by antisemites bent on the obliteration of the Jewish State of Israel.


like which propaganda exactly ? they way they took land that wasn't their ? international community is propaganda too for you I guess, lol.
israel always acted like a victim. these people were kicked off everywhere before establishing in middle east. its just facts not propaganda

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but since that didn't happen and they got Israel instead, i don't get why it had to be an ethnostate. why there was no compromise for the current occupants of the land. displace/murder ~700k-1mil people or try to integrate them. i understand they have beef but so did USA/England, and look at us now. USA nuked Japan, look at us now. i dont get why other nations can have tensions and overcome it but when it comes to israel and palastein its somehow a special situation. the way israel was established was in a way that they wanted conflict. its almost as if it was all to fuck over palastinians/arab world and that the holocaust was never a factor.


it had to be an ethnostate. god told them so.

This post was edited by Melatonina on May 20 2021 10:28pm
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.... are you coming at me bro?
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Quote (EndlessSky @ May 21 2021 12:01am)
Its like talking to a stump


I just wanted to emphasize the annex
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