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Can you explain the part that says "until now no one has united science and religion."
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Jun 8 2013 11:10am
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Can you explain the part that says "until now no one has united science and religion."


It is explained in the book...
Religions obviously did not updated the myths they spread and that have been proved wrong by science.
Science on the other hand does not take consciousness in consideration.

Einstein said "Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables or cosmic dust; we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance."
This quote means there is some force in action, that is making physical life balanced in the universe.
There is some force keeping you alive, and that is not your mind or a superman in the sky.
There is no big human with supernatural powers watching us in the sky and listening to people's prayers, but it doesn't mean there is no "God".
God is life itself, that which is... and science has to accept this fact.

Science is focusing on little details and missing the big picture of life.
Religion is focusing on the lives of messengers and missing their messages.

If science and religions unite, religions will become rational and science will make a real difference in our lives and progress much faster.

It is all about unity, and only the ultimate truth can unite us and our institutions.

That said the time has to be right... it was not possible before now, but we do not have much more time left before we kill each other or destroy the environment.
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Jun 8 2013 03:50pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Jun 8 2013 07:10pm)
It is explained in the book...
Religions obviously did not updated the myths they spread and that have been proved wrong by science.
Science on the other hand does not take consciousness in consideration.

Einstein said "Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables or cosmic dust; we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance."
This quote means there is some force in action, that is making physical life balanced in the universe.
There is some force keeping you alive, and that is not your mind or a superman in the sky.
There is no big human with supernatural powers watching us in the sky and listening to people's prayers, but it doesn't mean there is no "God".
God is life itself, that which is... and science has to accept this fact.

Science is focusing on little details and missing the big picture of life.
Religion is focusing on the lives of messengers and missing their messages.

If science and religions unite, religions will become rational and science will make a real difference in our lives and progress much faster.

It is all about unity, and only the ultimate truth can unite us and our institutions.

That said the time has to be right... it was not possible before now, but we do not have much more time left before we kill each other or destroy the environment.


What Einstein meant with "Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables or cosmic dust; we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance." is that time itself is a fourth dimension, we only experience this fourth dimension as time or change. the reason for this quote is that time is woven into space itself.

i read some of the text you posted but not all, its just pseudo science.

science does focus on consciousness, so far it seems to be something that is emergent from our brain itself, it seems to be parts of the brain working together, sharing information between different parts of the brain. this sharing stops when you are in deep sleep but is active when you are dreaming. it stops when you are unconscious, whenever we measure it, it is active when someone is conscious and inactive when we are not conscious. it is measured by using an electro-magnate that can induce a very low electrical charge. by measuring how that charge acts over the brain we determine if different parts are working together or shut off from each other, the charge is only local in one part of the brain when we are unconscious but it flows over a large portion of our brains when we are conscious. since the brain uses electrical charge to convey information we know if the part is sharing information or "talking to" other parts of the brain when we apply the electrical charge

this whole text you posted is only jumping to conclusions without proof, it uses quotes out of context to justify what it tells us. this is not how any intellectual person or people would share something important which in turns tells us a lot about the theory itself.


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Jun 8 2013 04:29pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Jun 8 2013 12:10pm)
It is explained in the book...
Religions obviously did not updated the myths they spread and that have been proved wrong by science.
Science on the other hand does not take consciousness in consideration.

Einstein said "Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables or cosmic dust; we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance."
This quote means there is some force in action, that is making physical life balanced in the universe.
There is some force keeping you alive, and that is not your mind or a superman in the sky.
There is no big human with supernatural powers watching us in the sky and listening to people's prayers, but it doesn't mean there is no "God".
God is life itself, that which is... and science has to accept this fact.

Science is focusing on little details and missing the big picture of life.
Religion is focusing on the lives of messengers and missing their messages.

If science and religions unite, religions will become rational and science will make a real difference in our lives and progress much faster.

It is all about unity, and only the ultimate truth can unite us and our institutions.

That said the time has to be right... it was not possible before now, but we do not have much more time left before we kill each other or destroy the environment.


I disagree with the interpretation of that quote. Even if Einstein says there is god that doesn't offer much evidence. So far it seems like all this book is doing is telling people to "open their mind" without really offering anything.
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Jun 8 2013 04:32pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Jun 8 2013 04:29pm)
I disagree with the interpretation of that quote. Even if Einstein says there is god that doesn't offer much evidence. So far it seems like all this book is doing is telling people to "open their mind" without really offering anything.


Yes, open your mind to misquoted and out of context quotes and terrible interpretations, as well as pure bullshit and incredibly bad philosophy.
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Jun 9 2013 04:21pm
"The only thing that makes humans different from other animals is that we have a mind that can think and reason at a high enough level to know the truth of life, and those that know rise above animals.

It is time to see and accept the truth the evidence supports."

From page 2 of The Present.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Jun 9 2013 04:22pm
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"Death sucks: Your death forces you to have to leave everything you have ever known. You are leaving everyone you love, and that is never okay.

Even if you think it is good, it makes your loved ones sad when you die, and there is nothing ok about that. No matter how you look at it, it is bad. Therefore, anyone that says they are ok with it has not really thought about it, is stupid, or is lying to themselves and everyone else. Death sucks, and that is the bottom line."

Read the whole, it is one of the most important things to KNOW. http://www.truthcontest.com/insights/living-dying/
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