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Feb 21 2023 04:26pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ 21 Feb 2023 23:10)
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

^ The Burns (now CIA director) memo that shows the US knew exactly what would happen if Ukraine were to attempt to join NATO. It's not incompetence. The US competently made the war happen. They knew what to do to make it happen and then the did those things so that it would happen.

Misstating the intentional nature of US actions isn't 'being diplomatic', it's being untruthful.


Unfortunately Wikileaks has ties with Russian governement. Ukraine is a sovereign country, the only reason to have a "war" with it would be to invade it, physically.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/
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Feb 21 2023 04:27pm
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Maybe spend your time arguing with people who don't agree with you lol

If you agree, then state your argument properly. Do you think the person you're arguing with is too stupid to understand that you're trying to goad him into an unstated position?

He probably thinks you've been brainwashed by RT, don't need to help him out in thinking that by making yourself seem dishonest about your real positions and motives.

It's just a bad way to argue with someone, honestly. That's what the disagreement is about, not whether or not Russia 'started it', a thought only babies and trolls can have at this point in time.
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Feb 21 2023 04:30pm
Putin is right in this fight. U.S. Democrats + various other countries under the thrall of George Soros & Schwab are the new axis of evil.

I say that as a very patriotic American that believes in what America is supposed to be.

This post was edited by Asno on Feb 21 2023 04:31pm
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Quote (kusotarre1 @ Feb 21 2023 06:27pm)
If you agree, then state your argument properly. Do you think the person you're arguing with is too stupid to understand that you're trying to goad him into an unstated position?

He probably thinks you've been brainwashed by RT, don't need to help him out in thinking that by making yourself seem dishonest about your real positions and motives.

It's just a bad way to argue with someone, honestly. That's what the disagreement is about, not whether or not Russia 'started it', a thought only babies and trolls can have at this point in time.


You don't get to dictate how I speak to other people, and I don't really care about your opinions on how I do so, sorry.

How about this though, if you are just desperate for some attention or a hostile argument, I'll do my best to provide one, I just don't have any disagreement with you on Russia/Ukraine so you'll have to find another topic, sound good champ?
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Feb 21 2023 04:36pm
Quote (Asno @ 21 Feb 2023 23:30)
Putin is right in this fight. U.S. Democrats + various other countries under the thrall of George Soros & Schwab are the new axis of evil.

I say that as a very patriotic American that believes in what America is supposed to be.


Excellent sig :thumbsup:



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Feb 21 2023 04:36pm
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Quote (Asno @ Feb 21 2023 02:30pm)
Putin is right in this fight. U.S. Democrats + various other countries under the thrall of George Soros & Schwab are the new axis of evil.

I say that as a very patriotic American that believes in what America is supposed to be.

America is exactly what it's always been. A violent state rooted in genocide, slavery, conquest and extraction.

Have you ever in your life typed the word "Yemen"? America was starving a child to death every 65 seconds for a good stretch, none of you right-wing Russia-lovers ever had a word to say about it.
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Quote (Asno @ Feb 21 2023 04:30pm)
Putin is right in this fight. U.S. Democrats + various other countries under the thrall of George Soros & Schwab are the new axis of evil.

I say that as a very patriotic American that believes in what America is supposed to be.


Sure, vatnik
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Feb 21 2023 02:35pm)
You don't get to dictate how I speak to other people, and I don't really care about your opinions on how I do so, sorry.

me: you're arguing bad.

you: don't tell me what to say, you're not my father!

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Feb 21 2023 04:39pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Feb 21 2023 05:36pm)
America is exactly what it's always been. A violent state rooted in genocide, slavery, conquest and extraction.

Have you ever in your life typed the word "Yemen"? America was starving a child to death every 65 seconds for a good stretch, none of you right-wing Russia-lovers ever had a word to say about it.


Understand that America has multiple factions. The "Patriots" which spans across every race, religion, & creed are those that actually believe in freedom, liberty, peace, prosperity & hard work. There is a disease infecting America planted by outside influences with much money & influence. America has, for a long time, been the biggest obstacle to empowerment of the communists & tyrants that are disgusted by normal people that they see as a threat to their existance.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 21 2023 05:36pm)
Excellent sig :thumbsup:

https://i.imgflip.com/2/1cmxvc.jpg



<3

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Quote (Asno @ Feb 21 2023 02:39pm)
Understand that America has multiple factions. The "Patriots" which spans across every race, religion, & creed are those that actually believe in freedom, liberty, peace, properity & hard work. There is a disease infecting America planted by outside influences with much money & influence. America has, for a long time, been the biggest obstacle to empowerment of the communists.

Oh, the communists are doing just fine, don't worry.

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