I really hate leftist virtue signalling. Literally all this did was divide people and bring more attention to the game

often times when you draw a line in the sand people debate if it's straight enough, where it was drawn, and if you should have used a bigger stick. forgetting why the line was even drawn.

hippies used to live in trees for several years to save ancient giants, and a few years later the forest would be blank but the largest most historic tree still stood and it was promised that they'd leave it up, so the hippies climbed down and took a 4 hour long shower.

most advocacy these days is undertaken for optics with failure being the known outcome. camp out on this doorstep, knowing you'll be arrested and business as usual will commence. or even vote and sign into law a bill you havent read knowing the POTUS will veto it, without reading it.

maybe its for the best, less bricks through starbucks windows, but it drives the pragmatists among us nuts.

also you:



no need to strawman me btw, i never made nor supported such claims. in fact, i made it clear from my very first reply that i agree with the general sentiment of your initial post, i merely disagree with your downplaying characterisation of her stance on trans people - something you gradually amended during our conversation btw - from 'misunderstood woman who merely reacted to a specific news item' (reminds me of camboy's 'he was just recommending award winning books' line, trying to defend stephen miller's pushing of white nationalist propaganda) to 'bigot, just not a huge one'.

This post was edited by fender on Feb 9 2023 12:23pm

right, initially her menstruation tweet was her being misunderstood, the response of which started to radicalize her. then she moved on to nude domestic abuse cases, which again her perspective as a DA survivor was misunderstood, and the response further radicalized her, but she was overhyping a fringe case. then she wrote a book clearly where she created a cross dresser as a killer because of being radicalized in the responses. now she's meeting with lesbians who are more anti trans than she likely would have entertained previous to the menstruation tweet debacle. i'm not amending who she is, now you're just comparing characterizations from different points of the timeline.

the point is still simple, what you and i find extreme in the context of transphobia differs wildly. what you and i think about the problematic nature of a large platform differs wildly. ive learned nothing about her that i didnt know or couldnt believe readily. the day she starts publicly supporting bans on trans women in locker rooms or a ban on all hormone treatment i'll recognize she's shifted a lot further and the extreme labels will be entirely appropriate. if hanging out with angry lesbians leaves that a foregone conclusion then i doubt we'll even have to wait long.

on those bolded aspect its just an issue of me defining "what has she done" meaning "what has she said or physically done" and you including "who has she talked with and posted picture of".

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 9 2023 12:29pm

another one of those little rhetorical manipulations in order to downplay her prominent role in the anti trans movement...

no. it's not merely casual encounters, celebrity photo ops, and the occasional friendly exchange of words with people whose political stances she couldn't possibly have known, let alone be aligned with. no, those are people who rowling has repeatedly elevated and legitimised through her massive platform, organisations and individuals she unmistakably allied with publicly, despite people (who she then blocked on social media) pointing out how hateful and bigoted they are, and what kind of anti-gay / anti-women legislation they also push for, beside "just" the anti trans stuff.

you don't have to "believe" in problematic platforming, that doesn't change the FACT that her tweets regularly make the news, that millions of people look up to her and value her opinion. putting her weight behind the anti trans movement undeniably gave it traction and influenced people. it really doesn't matter if you personally acknowledge that or not, lol.

maybe what would be helpful is you posting examples of times she platformed these problematic figures, what she said she agrees with them on. perhaps it was in the video, i wasnt avidly watching it for word for word retention.

if she has elevated and legitimized it all that means is she's gotten to a point ive repeatedly said she might get to anyways.

im glad her opinions make the news, im glad millions both look up to and look down on her. platforming is good, and not problematic, unless you can link that platform directly to violence it causes or legislation it had a causal relationship with. let her start a crusade against .01% of the population and implode her own fanbase for a nominal gain in support from fringe terfs and lesbians who feel unsafe based on daily mail page 6 cases that are embellished. the day someone attacks a trans person in the name of JKR i'll be happy to see her banned from twitter, at least temporarily, and will pile on if she doesnt vehemently disavow behavior even approaching that.

Shock therapy and white jackets need to come back.

Yes, very much this. Only I'm pretty sure they've picked a target that just doesn't care enough and it's having the opposite effect.

Isn't HP Legends topping sales despite basically being an Assassins Creed clone?

Really goes to show just how little the average person cares about some abstract talking point.

Hogwarts Legacy now holds the record on Twitch.tv for most viewership of a single player game despite a Twitch "boycott"

Pre-orders are also topping records

My roommate is playing it right now and if I'm being honest it looks like they just changed up Assassin's Creed a little to make the HP World fit.

And from scuttlebutt I'm hearing online the ending isn't really great either. Like ME3 fixed ending tier.