Quote (cambovenzi @ 26 Dec 2022 14:48)

This is called a false dichtomy fallacy.

You are also conflating everyone with the government. I'm not stealing from anyone or threatening to imprison or kill them if they don't give me their money. The government does that.



You are offended. Great. Thats not an argument.

Taxation is theft. Thats not lying, no matter how offended you get.




You are unwittingly conceding the point and illuminating the heart of the issue. Refusing to be stolen from can result in dire consequences from the government, so you pay taxes.. And not because its some moral imperative to fund the worst people in the world.

Quote (AyeCaramba @ Dec 26 2022 09:05am)

I’m pretty sure no government is currently applying death penalties for tax evasion.

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Taxation is not theft. Taxation is a price paid in modern society because many things are either impractical or impossible to provide on an individual basis. These things benefit society as a whole and this by extension all individual payers. To argue we should all pay if we want to, but not otherwise is idealism for sure, but cannot work.

If you don’t like the idea, go provide all you need for yourself off grid and enjoy the peace and quiet

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To argue we should all pay if we want to, but not otherwise is idealism for sure, but cannot work.

Quote (mki @ Dec 25 2022 11:12pm)

The suggestion that taxes are theft is incredibly offensive to people who pay taxes and the people who are saying it are lying.

Yeah. I'm just a big dummy for following the rules and not being a criminal. I guess I just go through life getting robbed by the government because I'm a normal person that wants a house and a family... I'm the sucker I guess...

Quote (mki @ Dec 25 2022 06:34pm)

Do you legitimately think thieves return stolen money?

You people seem to be really confused about how basic things work, like theft...

I just wanted to say that this conversation is honestly completely disgusting.

You have trillions of dollars worth of infrastructure that was built for you to use FOR FREE, there's hundreds of government programs that you can use FOR FREE, and when you get old the government will send you checks for simply for being alive...

What you have suggested here in this thread is so disgustingly far from the truth that I wonder if you have any idea what is going on in the world AT ALL...

It completely boggles my mind how could do something like, have a job, and not be aware of the concept that you get value returned to you by paying taxes and that there are people working all day long to make the things you do possible.

I legitimately think you live in your parent's basement and sit in some online circle jerk chat all day while you completely disrespect the 100's of millions of people that worked their entire lives to make this country a better place.

It's disgusting and you need to stop...

Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 26 2022 03:12pm)

If you don't pay taxes you can go to prison. If you resist you will be shot.




It is theft even if you have been indoctrinated into thinking its necessary or preferable or 'benefits society'.


No proof or logic saying it cannot work.
Bolded concedes the point that its coerced payment.


'If you recognize taxation is theft then go live in the woods' is the most tired and braindead cliche.
I would prefer to peacefully live with other people.

Even if you go live in the woods the government demands your money and has gone after people.

Quote (Leevee @ Dec 26 2022 10:31am)

“I am so tired of hearing the argument that I cannot counter.” — every lazy internet troll

Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 26 2022 04:41pm)

If you dont agree with what I said then leave d2jsp

This is my undefeatable argument

Quote (cambovenzi @ 26 Dec 2022 08:48)

You are also conflating everyone with the government. I'm not stealing from anyone or threatening to imprison or kill them if they don't give me their money. The government does that.