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Sep 30 2022 11:02am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 30 2022 06:35pm)
The big issue is that cancer isn't one disease. Some cancers can be helped along by excess consumption of sugar but most don't care. Some colon cancers have certain preservatives as a risk factor but most don't care. Some cancers have a lessened risk either diet and exercise but not all of them.

The real issue is this guy pretending to be a doctor and pretending that taking sugar out of your diet is a sure way to cure cancer and yadda yadda.

Over Simplification to the degree he is doing is harmful. Cancer is complicated and that shouldn't be hidden from the public.

I get where you come from but most people are lazy f***s looking for an easy solution. Cutting out sugar as much as possible might seem naive but contributes a LOT vs obesity pandemic in 1st world countries. So again, avoiding sugar alone won't solve the problem but is it a big step forward? 100%!
I'd tax coca cola, fanta and the likes with the highest tax rate possible for that simple reason. Again, the amount of excess calories obese people consume nowadays wouldn't be physically possibly without sugar drinks.

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Sep 30 2022 11:13am
Quote (sirthom @ Sep 30 2022 11:58am)
I dooded it and it worked.


so u didnt have cancer, stopped eating sugar, and still didnt have cancer?

or you had cancer, stopped eating sugar, and your cancer was cured?
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Sep 30 2022 11:20am
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 30 2022 12:13pm)
so u didnt have cancer, stopped eating sugar, and still didnt have cancer?

or you had cancer, stopped eating sugar, and your cancer was cured?


How about a derogatory retort for both.
Then we can pick the one that sounds best.
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Sep 30 2022 11:38am
Quote (sirthom @ Sep 30 2022 12:20pm)
How about a derogatory retort for both.
Then we can pick the one that sounds best.


to be fair i didnt actually expect you to back up your claim, so thanks.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 30 2022 12:38pm)
to be fair i didnt actually expect you to back up your claim, so thanks.


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Sep 30 2022 12:05pm
will taking sugar out of the diet ever be detrimental to a cancer patient?
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Sep 30 2022 12:10pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Sep 30 2022 01:05pm)
will taking sugar out of the diet ever be detrimental to a cancer patient?


I tend to think not, but with a lot of context. sugar isn't just refined sugar, its in all kinds of food. many of those foods contain a lot more beneficial vitamins and things than the detrimental sugar.

take them off all fruit, take them off many kinds of other foods, and make sure they're getting the vitamins elsewhere. just dont expect it to cure their cancer.
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Sep 30 2022 12:40pm
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I tend to think not, but with a lot of context. sugar isn't just refined sugar, its in all kinds of food. many of those foods contain a lot more beneficial vitamins and things than the detrimental sugar.

take them off all fruit, take them off many kinds of other foods, and make sure they're getting the vitamins elsewhere. just dont expect it to cure their cancer.

You exactly know what kind of sugar is meant. Refined sugar added to stuff extra. Eating an apple as a whole and lots of fruits has never been a problem. Making juices out of them then enhancing by refined sugar is a big problem. An average apple has got 50kcal. TO eat 5000kcal, you'd need to eat 100 of them. Show me a fatso who could do that. Do you know how much kcal a single coca cola bottle has? 420kcal per liter! Drinking 2-4 liter instead of water is easy peasy compared to the amount of apples.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 1 2022 02:07am)
I literally work in Oncology research. There is nothing a YouTube video can teach me. Oh and he's not a doctor. He's a chiropractor, which is not an evidence based branch of medicine.


Okay so watched it and all I can say is yikes.

Not all cancers are warberg like.

Cancers are not caused by mitochondrial damage. That's actually the easiest way to trigger apoptosis and stop a cell from proliferating.

Human cells do not do fermentation, we do anaerobic respiration to make lactic acid.

Your body keeps blood sugar circulating or you die. It is literally impossible to starve a cancer of sugar.

Ketone are primarily emergency energy and not used to build membranes. Cancer cells also use fatty acids to build membranes.


This guy is very very misinformed and that's not surprising since, again, he's not from a profession that values evidence.


My biggest fear is that some hack chiro will turn me into a paraplegic, i never see them :mellow:
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Quote (babun1024 @ Sep 30 2022 01:40pm)
You exactly know what kind of sugar is meant. Refined sugar added to stuff extra. Eating an apple as a whole and lots of fruits has never been a problem. Making juices out of them then enhancing by refined sugar is a big problem. An average apple has got 50kcal. TO eat 5000kcal, you'd need to eat 100 of them. Show me a fatso who could do that. Do you know how much kcal a single coca cola bottle has? 420kcal per liter! Drinking 2-4 liter instead of water is easy peasy compared to the amount of apples.


Correct, eating too much sugar is bad in all sorts of ways. dental health especially.

but that's not the context, does sugar feed and therefore make cancer worse. if yes, any sugar makes it worse. same way that any amount of gasoline added to fire makes the fire bigger. and if so, then cancer patients should ingest any sugar.
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