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Sep 9 2022 08:35pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 9 2022 07:23pm)
Is there any way to be certain of anything?


my understanding is no not really. it seems faith is a necessary component. faith is just another word for trust. who do you trust?
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Sep 9 2022 09:06pm
Demiurge trapping consciousness and using good cop bad cop & lack of feeling ideology to ensnare the desensitized. synthetic cosmic parasitics from a scientific perspective yet still begging the question why.

~Youre emulations of a source energy that is being liquidated, augmented(synthesized) and reverse engineered. like a scenario involving "evolved" planets & moons weighing down the sun via gravity and draining the energy until physical matter ceases
evil benefits from this exchange within the context of physical existence aka for the time being.
the evidence would suggest good isn't more powerful than evil in this material reality.

ex- the allowance for human suffering or being tormented more than they have ever gave torment would mean most decent human beings historically were more righteous than an alleged perfectly good god.
in fact if any1 has been tortured yet has tended to the needs of those who were, you would have done more than said god. Story of Job being evidence of bible's hypocritical or atleast not perfectly omnipotent god.

the biblical concept of omnipotent god is moral swiss cheese and has stone walled actual concepts that i have provided though is still a good baseline reference to juxtoapose real explanations.

have to cherry pick.

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Reproducible Experimentation.


How could you be certain of what you originally produced?
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gobbledygook

We see the bible........... observation
We test the word, become convinced, repent and become christian..... experimentation
Happens every generation..........repeatable

more gobbledygook


We see the lord of the rings........... observation
We test the word, become convinced, repent and become sauronian..... experimentation
Happens every generation..........repeatable

nice i like this method, i can validate any belief with it, truly astounding.
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How could you be certain of what you originally produced?




You can't. That's why it has to be reproducible, by anyone.

If I claim that striking a piece of flint with steel, makes a spark, it won't be excepted as fact unless everyone else that tries it, can produce the same result.

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We see the lord of the rings........... observation
We test the word, become convinced, repent and become sauronian..... experimentation
Happens every generation..........repeatable

nice i like this method, i can validate any belief with it, truly astounding.


yours never happened
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Quote (phoenixfire82 @ Sep 10 2022 12:04am)
We see the lord of the rings........... observation
We test the word, become convinced, repent and become sauronian..... experimentation
Happens every generation..........repeatable

nice i like this method, i can validate any belief with it, truly astounding.




Nope.

Watching the movie means nothing. The books are the only accurate source.
And it isn't claiming to be fact. It's... fiction. :)

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Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 9 2022 09:07pm)
yours never happened



Quote (Ghot @ Sep 9 2022 09:07pm)
You can't. That's why it has to be reproducible, by anyone.

If I claim that striking a piece of flint with steel, makes a spark, it won't be excepted as fact unless everyone else that tries it, can produce the same result.



& Im just claiming that that spark is blinding and you are blinded until you strike "kindling with a flame":



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yours never happened


neither did yours
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