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Jul 22 2022 01:57pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 22 2022 08:58pm)
There was no mistake on my end. Based on your response, you failed to understand the argument.

Anyway, that was a very long winded way of saying "no" to my question. The previous and current state of affairs simply doesn't support your wild scenario from happening. But hey, at least we're making progress!


You clearly made a mistake. Russia doesn't give a damn about Sweden/Finland cuz it's EU, they care about Ukraine because of Crimea/Sevastopol and a Russian speaking minority in Eastern Ukraine.

Talking about reading comprehension, can't you see I answered your question with a yes in bold, lol
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Jul 22 2022 02:19pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2022 12:57pm)
You clearly made a mistake. Russia doesn't give a damn about Sweden/Finland cuz it's EU, they care about Ukraine because of Crimea/Sevastopol and a Russian speaking minority in Eastern Ukraine.

Talking about reading comprehension, can't you see I answered your question with a yes in bold, lol


Nope. Russia does NOT support NATO expansion and does not support Finland or Sweden joining NATO. They obviously care and the potential security risks are obvious which is why they've made threats against both nations.

No one has disputed that Russia cares about Crimea and Sevastopol. The issue is if it was in danger post annexation and before the war. The answer is unequivocally NO.

Russia also doesn't give a shit Russian speaking minorities in Eastern Ukraine. That should be obvious given that they are throwing all their men into the meat grinder. How do you not see through this? You don't need to be radnoy to understand THAT.

You said yes with a bunch of nonsensical caveats. That's like saying, "Donald Trump is a homosexual if he admits that all of his marriages were a sham and takes it up the ass." That's a long winded way of saying Donald Trump is not a homosexual.

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Jul 22 2022 02:38pm
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Nope. Russia does NOT support NATO expansion and does not support Finland or Sweden joining NATO. They obviously care and the potential security risks are obvious which is why they've made threats against both nations.

No one has disputed that Russia cares about Crimea and Sevastopol. The issue is if it was in danger post annexation and before the war. The answer is unequivocally NO.

Russia also doesn't give a shit Russian speaking minorities in Eastern Ukraine. That should be obvious given that they are throwing all their men into the meat grinder. How do you not see through this? You don't need to be radnoy to understand THAT.

You said yes with a bunch of nonsensical caveats. That's like saying, "Donald Trump is a homosexual if he admits that all of his marriages were a sham and takes it up the ass." That's a long winded way of saying Donald Trump is not a homosexual.


They don't give a damn dude that's something entirely different than supporting it. It means they will take counter measures whatever that may be but they don't lose a naval base like in the case of losing Crimea.

I have stated time and again the main reason is Crimea, feel free to browse my posts all the way back to Feb 24 the beginning of this war.

Dragging the orange man in to somehow make your arguments look better is just laughable. FFS dude try typing something that makes sense for once.

My argument makes perfect sense, NATO doesn't need a direct confrontation with Russia therefore NATO membership is out of the question right now but it could become a problem in the future if Ukraine becomes a member and suddenly wants lost territories back. This would be a huge problem for Russia.
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