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May 5 2022 09:23am
Quote (JessiWan @ 5 May 2022 17:01)
Lol, I am pretty sure Copernicus was only one person and what he had to go up against were countless people, the entire society. But guess which of them was right?

You are essentially saying who is right is determined by which side has more people. You are fucking pathetic.


ngl, you comparing yourself to copernicus was pretty funny, thanks for the laugh. seriously though, copernicus was a scientist. what he discovered was based on facts, not feelings. society as a whole eventually accepted his findings. i already told you in previous posts how societies have evolved on countless issues throughout time, but also explained how it's irrelevant for this specific discussion.

it's simply a dumb analogy because your minority is not making a scientific argument, but a religiously motivated, moral one. meaning the decision as to who is "right" or "wrong" is not a matter decided by cold, hard facts, but by a weighing of priorities and interests (zygote's rights vs. women's rights / government intervention vs. free, equal, secular society...).

if anything, the role you should have chosen for yourself if you were honest is that of the church, desperately trying to prevent society from embracing reason and enlightenment, out of fear to lose control.
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May 5 2022 09:28am
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And if people are told the sky is blue maybe they wont think its green.

you're starting from a faulty premise and just wont admit you're wrong. they already know what you want to tell them, you just get off on the idea of saying it to their face.

maybe if we tell kids drugs are addictive and ruin lives they wont try them. right? DARE program works so well....

maybe if we show Red Asphalt to drivers ed students they'll never drink and drive. that works great right? zero DUIs and drunk driving deaths.

maybe if we tell people the penalty for smoking crack is 10x that for snorting coke they wont smoke crack. worked out awesome!

a label on cigarettes that it causes cancer stopped smoking! wonderful.


So you are essentially saying that you dont think my idea will work. And I am not saying that it will be a wild success. The only thing I know is that implementing my idea will be better than not implementing it.
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need more examples on how silly ur idea is? or just say nothing in response and ill realize u get it.


Dude, there is no need for you to act like this. I have been nothing but civil towards you in our exchange in this thread. But apparently you have a lot of animosity towards me, possibly owing from the kicking of your butt by me in other threads from eons ago. Let it go and drop it, dude. If you want to engage me in talks, I suggest you act reasonably civil.
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May 5 2022 09:32am
solution is safer births not more readily available satanic rituals.
The hospital cannot do this because it is designed to harm. hospitals profit off sickness.

It is up to the individuals to enable each other to stop killing one another under strange labels like freedom to....kill? as a choice.

However, because of the c19 v4x chip and unconscious Ai mind control, they now need more host bodies to energy feed so they will probably reduce abortions.
The new satanic ritual is permanent possession by 5g and vaxes not killing the unborn to appease.

The mark of the beast system grows stronger.

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May 5 2022 09:34am
Quote (fender @ May 5 2022 08:23am)
ngl, you comparing yourself to copernicus was pretty funny, thanks for the laugh. seriously though, copernicus was a scientist. what he discovered was based on facts, not feelings. society as a whole eventually accepted his findings. i already told you in previous posts how societies have evolved on countless issues throughout time, but also explained how it's irrelevant for this specific discussion.


If you think I am comparing myself to Copernicus, then you are pathetic in addition to not being able to read.

Hint to you genius: I was trying to show you and your tiny, atrophied brain that who is right is not determined by which side has more people on it.

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it's simply a dumb analogy because your minority is not making a scientific argument, but a religiously motivated, moral one. meaning the decision as to who is "right" or "wrong" is not a matter decided by cold, hard facts, but by a weighing of priorities and interests (zygote's rights vs. women's rights / government intervention vs. free, equal, secular society...).

if anything, the role you should have chosen for yourself if you were honest is that of the church, desperately trying to prevent society from embracing reason and enlightenment, out of fear to lose control.


It's not a "religiously motivated, moral one". It's a matter of definition and logic. See below:

Abortion is the intentional killing of the unborn. The unborn is an organism that 1. has complete human DNA and 2. is alive. An organism that satisfies both of these conditions, is human life. Murder is the intentional killing of a human life. Therefore, abortion is murder.
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May 5 2022 09:45am
Quote (JessiWan @ 5 May 2022 17:28)
So you are essentially saying that you dont think my idea will work. And I am not saying that it will be a wild success. The only thing I know is that implementing my idea will be better than not implementing it.


Dude, there is no need for you to act like this. I have been nothing but civil towards you in our exchange in this thread. But apparently you have a lot of animosity towards me, possibly owing from the kicking of your butt by me in other threads from eons ago. Let it go and drop it, dude. If you want to engage me in talks, I suggest you act reasonably civil.


imagine getting triggered into oblivion by the word "silly", yet making posts like this:

Quote (JessiWan @ 5 May 2022 17:34)
If you think I am comparing myself to Copernicus, then you are pathetic in addition to not being able to read.

Hint to you genius: I was trying to show you and your tiny, atrophied brain that who is right is not determined by which side has more people on it.



It's not a "religiously motivated, moral one". It's a matter of definition and logic. See below:

Abortion is the intentional killing of the unborn. The unborn is an organism that 1. has complete human DNA and 2. is alive. An organism that satisfies both of these conditions, is human life. Murder is the intentional killing of a human life. Therefore, abortion is murder.


anyway, your feelings and beliefs as to what constitutes "murder" as to who can be "murdered" fortunately don't determine how society evaluates zygote rights against women's rights, government intervention vs. freedom, equality, and secularism. now that you finally managed to paste that (long predicted) line into one of your replies to me, you can get back to trying to explain how your feelings should outweigh society's consensus, and why you'd love for the government to intrude that severely on women's lives and bodies, using your own words... if you can...
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May 5 2022 09:46am
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imagine getting triggered into oblivion by the word "silly", yet making posts like this:


There is a difference between being "triggered" and losing patience with overwhelming idiocy, which you produce in ample amounts.

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anyway, your feelings and beliefs as to what constitutes "murder" as to who can be "murdered" fortunately don't determine how society evaluates zygote rights against women's rights, government intervention vs. freedom, equality, and secularism. now that you finally managed to paste that (long predicted) line into one of your replies to me, you can get back to trying to explain how your feelings should outweigh society's consensus, and why you'd love for the government to intrude that severely on women's lives and bodies, using your own words... if you can...


I can't believe you are still on about "feelings" and "beliefs". Do you even know what a syllogism is? Did you go to a university at all?

At this point you are just repeating yourself like a cockatoo. Society, consensus, women's rights, goverments weighing things...blah blah blah.

This post was edited by JessiWan on May 5 2022 09:50am
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May 5 2022 09:48am
Brain synapse start to form at 17 weeks...If the fetus moves before it's nerves, there's no functional brain.
So it's not murder: it's ABORTION. That something already painful for almost all women who do it.
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May 5 2022 09:49am
Quote (JessiWan @ May 5 2022 08:54am)
Does it say this in the Constitution?

You meant that it's not a crime that's punishable by law.

In a legal sense, abortion is not murder. But thats only because we have structured our laws in such a way as to make abortion not murder. However, in a philosophical way, it can be argued that abortion is indeed murder. I mean, it's the intentional ending of a human life. How can this not be murder?


Because murder has never been defined as "the intentional ending of a human life"
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May 5 2022 09:51am
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Because murder has never been defined as "the intentional ending of a human life"


We can define it however we want. Currently abortion is defined as not murder because there are more people on your side.
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May 5 2022 10:04am
Quote (JessiWan @ 5 May 2022 15:51)
We can define it however we want. Currently abortion is defined as not murder because there are more people on your side.


You will have to wait that the no formed brain fetus to sign papers.
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