A nation is not "your extended family". You're trying to do fascism-lite with this argument.

From an economic perspective it is much more feasible to have immigrants come in. Natives you have to support for 18 years before they are productive. Which is why virtually all immigrants are a net positive to society in terms of tax and economic input.

Anti-gay hate crimes are still reasonably common, like anti-asian hate crimes and anti-semitic hate crimes; perpetrated by black men.



I mean that's not even remotely true, the result of immigration- legal and illegal- is a huge net economic cost. They are virtually all huge negative tax rates, costing far more in social services than they provide in tax and economic input.
First generation immigrants and illegal immigrants are both a huge net burden. You can argue however that second generation immigrants are actually a significant net fiscal contributor, and that is true. But it negates your argument about 'support for 18 years'

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 1 2022 08:02pm

But the economy shouldn't be the only concern. What about unity as a nation? Cultural cohesiveness? Continuity of a nation's genetic legacy? These are important too. And if the immigrants you let in are vastly different from the host, they look different, talk different, act different, and believe in different things, you would literally be displacing the natives with foreign peoples.

Lol, wanting those closest to me to procreate is now fascism lite. Some next level logic right there. And the bolded is factually untrue. Some are a net-positive some are not. I volunteered for a refugee resettlement agency years ago a lot of those people literally live off the system for many years, some never actually working. There are hundreds of thousands of people coming here that will never work a day in their life and basically use thousands of dollars worth of social safety net dollars per month.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 1 2022 08:08pm

I think that's largely the case in America. Even the uneducated immigrants bust their ass cleaning homes, raising the children of white people, etc.

As for passing on the "genes," we do that through American ideals. I'd argue that the Indian who busts his ass working 14 hour days at a tech company is more American than the white trash of the South. The Americas are unique in that we were all colonies so we're a mix of natives and immigrants. We're not ethnostates which is a massive advantage IMO.

He is sexualizing immigration with the cuckcalling. Lol.

Also all white people in America are descendants of immigrants. I'm a McSomething.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 1 2022 08:13pm

Refugees are not immigrants dumb dumb. If you volunteered at a resettlement agency you should know that the two groups are very different on basically every level. Mainly, that immigrants almost always come here with work as their primary goal, and refugees come out of concern for safety and will return once those concerns are dealt with.

Your country is not "those closest to you". You basically said we should prioritize our own ethnonational group to have children rather than allowing immigration. If you don't see how that's pretty obvious a fascist-lite sentiment then you don't really know what fascism is.



No no, he volunteered at a refugee resettlement agency. That means it holds weight even when he doesn't know the basics.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on May 1 2022 08:15pm

Refugees are immigrants, it's just a semantic labeling based on where they come from and sometimes why they are given permission to come. A lot of the people I worked with came from Nepal and Burma, some had to flee because of war, many didn't and just seized the opportunity to come here under this broad category. Also almost none of the refugees that came here ever returned, you're arguing things you have no clue about.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity dumbass, we in the west are a melting pot. Every country has an obligation to provide for it's citizens and the people living on it's territories, it's not a matter of race of ethnicity, it's an ideal that all countries across the globe exist under.

Some immigrants are hardworking, but others get on the dole. It's not such that immigrant are all hardworking and drive the economy of their host nations. Besides, if the kinds of work they do are menial such as cleaning homes, being nannies..etc, then they are contributing very minimally. They are also taking jobs from natives.



This is false dichotomy. It is not such that we can only choose between an Indian who works 14 hours a day at a tech company and white trash. What if there is a white American who works 14 hours at a tech company? If he exists, then we should choose him over the Indian. Do you agree?



Why do you love minorities so much? Are you white yourself? I can never understand the psychology of a white American who is ecstatic at the thought of his people being replaced by foreign-looking third-worlders. Why do you love this so much?

Because diversity is great. Why should I fear being replaced? Immigrants are doppelgängers now? That is fucking retarded lol.