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Apr 28 2022 01:23pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 28 2022 02:19pm)
that's a joke. riots didnt happen while we had an active occupation of the south, something that was of course unsustainable. and the 1960s were still fairly small changes, drinking fountains and dinner counters. did nothing to prevent white flight, actually fix school integration, give reparations, or anything else analogous to the complete reform you're suggesting schools should get in short order.

and of course like most deeply biased people you fail to sense the pendulum. fast change for thee means fast change for the other side. incremental changes have slowed down conservatives as much as they've slowed you down. your want is the same as giving everyone a gun for "safety" and expecting less gun violence.


You're right. We didn't have riots in the south that lead to change. We had a literal civil war.

Hard to argue that the civil rights act is a small change honestly. Didn't solve everything, but wasn't a small incremenetal change by any stretch of the imagination.

Neither of these things were small or incremental, and while they didn't solve everything they did solve some things, when we did leave it to incremental changes it didn't solve anything.

We can do sweeping changes to the school system much easier than we can fight a civil war and free slaves.
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Apr 28 2022 01:28pm
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"The establishment clause separates church from state, but not religion from politics or public life. Individual citizens are free to bring their religious convictions into the public arena."


Next.


Public school = state
(This is why sub-humans republicans want to destroy public schools.)
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Apr 28 2022 01:30pm
Quote (Defendor @ Apr 28 2022 02:07pm)
Why is it the people with the loudest voices NEVER HAVE KIDS


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Apr 28 2022 01:32pm
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You're right. We didn't have riots in the south that lead to change. We had a literal civil war.

Hard to argue that the civil rights act is a small change honestly. Didn't solve everything, but wasn't a small incremenetal change by any stretch of the imagination.

Neither of these things were small or incremental, and while they didn't solve everything they did solve some things, when we did leave it to incremental changes it didn't solve anything.

We can do sweeping changes to the school system much easier than we can fight a civil war and free slaves.


the context is overhauling an entire system. was the civil rights legislation circa 1964 an overhaul of a major system? or was it more of a list of tweaks to said systems? i'd argue the latter, i'd argue it didnt go nearly far enough, and i'd argue we've fought a decades long social civil war as a result of that, but that it may be preferable to a literal civil war of bloodshed that may have resulted from implementing serious change in the 1960s. we already had people get dogs set on them and firehoses used on children for asking to eat at a whites only counter, imagine if they asked for full school integration or slavery reparations.

as to the last sentence, no, america is far better at fighting wars than improving massive systems. as if we even could start to agree on what that rebuild would look like in the legislature to make the big fast change happen. its comical to even think about how badly that would go after the ACA debacle, where Hillary rightly pointed out even passing it was a massive accomplishment regardless of how much of a half measure it was.
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Apr 28 2022 01:40pm
Did all the outraged lefties have the same rage when that Cali girl got told she wasn't allowed wearing anything MAGA to school in 2019?
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Apr 28 2022 01:46pm
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Did all the outraged lefties have the same rage when that Cali girl got told she wasn't allowed wearing anything MAGA to school in 2019?


no because they are cowardly scum when its time to go against the pscyhos in their movement
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Apr 28 2022 01:49pm
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Did all the outraged lefties have the same rage when that Cali girl got told she wasn't allowed wearing anything MAGA to school in 2019?



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Apr 28 2022 02:28pm
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Did all the outraged lefties have the same rage when that Cali girl got told she wasn't allowed wearing anything MAGA to school in 2019?


MAGA = hate speech

Hate speech ain't protected
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Quote (WiziLiCe @ Apr 28 2022 03:28pm)
MAGA = hate speech

Hate speech ain't protected



Sounding pretty libtard

Maga simply means make America great again…

You think it’s hate speech that’s on you…

You sound like a person who works for Twitter…
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Quote (Defendor @ Apr 28 2022 02:30pm)
Sounding pretty libtard

Maga simply means make America great again…

You think it’s hate speech that’s on you…

You sound like a person who works for Twitter…


The phrase is commonly used to embolden racists / is associated to a racist figure head. You may not like it, but we should not tolerate such hateful speech in schools
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