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#61
Feb 28 2022 01:15pm
Quote (Vastet @ Feb 28 2022 02:14pm)
That is an argument I've heard from Americans for decades, but the American military doesn't agree with the assessment. The Pentagon was alarmed at the unveiling of hypersonic missiles and immediately focused on catching up to Russian and Chinese development of said weapons. It is possible that you are correct, but if so, then it is a blunder to not 'brag' about having such defensive capability as it only emboldens adversaries.





Yep... that's what they leaked. :)

Here's a little piece of info... in the 70's the US had a radar that could read a license plate... on the moon.
That was 50 years ago. :-)

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Feb 28 2022 01:18pm
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America has no weapons capable of intercepting hypersonic missiles. Hypersonic missiles do not have to fly high like ICBM's and are capable of maneuvers.


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/america-may-have-found-secret-killing-hypersonic-missiles-177824
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Feb 28 2022 01:24pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 28 2022 02:18pm)
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/america-may-have-found-secret-killing-hypersonic-missiles-177824



And it's really easy to kill a hypersonic missile... before it takes off. :-)
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Feb 28 2022 01:27pm
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/america-may-have-found-secret-killing-hypersonic-missiles-177824


All that really says is that 'maybe' America actually can shoot one down. Considering America doesn't even have hypersonic missiles to test defences against them I'm skeptical. Even conventional missile shields are bad at shooting down missiles. Israel may have the most effective missile shield on Earth yet missiles built in a cave with spare parts still occasionally squeeze through. If Russian missiles are heading my way I'd rather have a missile shield than nothing, but I'm still going to look for a bunker to hide in because they can't stop all of them.
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Feb 28 2022 01:29pm
Quote (Vastet @ Feb 28 2022 02:27pm)
All that really says is that 'maybe' America actually can shoot one down. Considering America doesn't even have hypersonic missiles to test defences against them I'm skeptical. Even conventional missile shields are bad at shooting down missiles. Israel may have the most effective missile shield on Earth yet missiles built in a cave with spare parts still occasionally squeeze through. If Russian missiles are heading my way I'd rather have a missile shield than nothing, but I'm still going to look for a bunker to hide in because they can't stop all of them.




You keep assuming that you can find the latest information about US defense and attack capabilities, on the internet.
You can't.
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Feb 28 2022 01:30pm
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You keep assuming that you can find the latest information about US defense and attack capabilities, on the internet.
You can't.


You are equally guilty of assuming the same of Russian and Chinese capability.
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#67
Feb 28 2022 01:35pm
The new boat able to avoid ORBITAL HYPERSONIC attacks !

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Feb 28 2022 01:46pm
Quote (sirthom @ Feb 28 2022 01:08pm)
did you serve on a cv?


No, my brother did. I served on an Aegis platform.

Quote (Djunior @ Feb 28 2022 01:09pm)
A zircon that after reaching max speed dives to come in low to avoid radar gives you 20 seconds to react after detection. Max speed mach 8 - mach 9. This means it's virtually unstoppable.

This is a big missile, the kinetic energy alone is enormous. It can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads.

Your knowledge is outdated. Carriers will be in serious danger when they are in reach of these systems.

edit: it can maneuver just to make sure btw


The hypersonic system itself is still under development. The USN used ramjet missiles in the 60s-70s (Talos Rim-8), but it fell into disfavor over its huge size. They're also slower in their terminal approaches.
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Feb 28 2022 01:51pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 28 2022 08:46pm)
No, my brother did. I served on an Aegis platform.



The hypersonic system itself is still under development. The USN used ramjet missiles in the 60s-70s (Talos Rim-8), but it fell into disfavor over its huge size. They're also slower in their terminal approaches.


Sure. But this is a Russian missile, not an American missile.

It was announced years ago not sure exactly but from what I've read only the land based platform is still in development. On both surface ships and subs the system is already operational.
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Feb 28 2022 02:05pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 28 2022 01:46pm)
No, my brother did. I served on an Aegis platform.


The aws is so nice.
Was you on a ca or dd?
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