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Jan 19 2022 06:34am
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 19 2022 07:25am)
Ah. This one.
I've been listening to stuff.
Haven't been able to search for anything that hasn't been suggested though.
NetflixAdaptationWidow was right about my views being heavily skewed right.
People who claimed they were "left" were actually moderate center-right so my perspective was off.
I'm still in the "relearning" phase by going into topics I thought I knew but I only had that skewed right opinion.
I've known about Hasan amd Vaush for a while. It's just hard to find their content digestible because a lot of their streams are "owning the trumpets".
Still searching for someone like a Shaun who has a show that isn't a reactionary and just dives into topics like a Tim Pool but with a true left view.
Also I'm being fairly picky by requiring Spotify as I'm not allowed to have my phone out at work.


Destiny is considered by many people as center left, and he's smarter and more digestible than Vaush and Hasan by far. Hasan is a far left entertainer - he's not someone you should ever listen to.

Destiny is one of the only lefties who is willing to have sometimes even civil debates with the far right.

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Jan 19 2022 06:37am
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 19 2022 04:25am)
Ah. This one.
I've been listening to stuff.
Haven't been able to search for anything that hasn't been suggested though.
NetflixAdaptationWidow was right about my views being heavily skewed right.
People who claimed they were "left" were actually moderate center-right so my perspective was off.
I'm still in the "relearning" phase by going into topics I thought I knew but I only had that skewed right opinion.
I've known about Hasan amd Vaush for a while. It's just hard to find their content digestible because a lot of their streams are "owning the trumpets".
Still searching for someone like a Shaun who has a show that isn't a reactionary and just dives into topics like a Tim Pool but with a true left view.
Also I'm being fairly picky by requiring Spotify as I'm not allowed to have my phone out at work.



It's impossible not to offend at least a few people but yes I'm trying to be someone who understands both sides in a real way.


i have been doing this for quite some time. one could say i was on a similar quest quite some time ago maybe a decade. I ended up christian :) something i never expected
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Jan 19 2022 06:51am
Quote (crackersj @ 19 Jan 2022 07:27)
Yes I should've used better terminology.
I know.
I guess what I'm looking for is a true left wing opinion that's isn't a blatant "owning the right" stream/podcast.


David Pakman is pretty humble and shows humility for sure, also very conscious of what he is saying etc

I recommend him

he does spend a lot fo time bitching about the right though

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Destiny is considered by many people as center left, and he's smarter and more digestible than Vaush and Hasan by far. Hasan is a far left entertainer - he's not someone you should ever listen to.

Destiny is one of the only lefties who is willing to have sometimes even civil debates with the far right.


Destiny is a troll strawman dumbass.

in my opinion

I dont know why anyone listens to that basement dwelling strawman arguing screeching yuts. His debate skills re about as good as a 4 year old talking over his mom. and ontop of that as you point out, he isnt even entertaining lmfao. He also Sucks balls at starcraft and was never good.

hasan at least stands for something and knows accurately that cracker is not a fucking racist statement

Hasan is jokes his Brand is also way better than "sweaty dark basement troll getting angry that people can afford Homes in LA rather than screech to 200 viewers about something or other Destiny is right"

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Jan 19 2022 07:08am
Quote (Crunkt @ 19 Jan 2022 07:51)
David Pakman is pretty humble and shows humility for sure, also very conscious of what he is saying etc

I recommend him

he does spend a lot fo time bitching about the right though


Noted.

Quote (kenw @ 19 Jan 2022 07:34)
Destiny is considered by many people as center left, and he's smarter and more digestible than Vaush and Hasan by far. Hasan is a far left entertainer - he's not someone you should ever listen to.

Destiny is one of the only lefties who is willing to have sometimes even civil debates with the far right.


Will look into him. I know he did an episode with Tim Pool but I can't remember how he debated him.

Quote (Crunkt @ 19 Jan 2022 07:51)
Destiny is a troll strawman dumbass.

in my opinion

I dont know why anyone listens to that basement dwelling strawman arguing screeching yuts. His debate skills re about as good as a 4 year old talking over his mom. and ontop of that as you point out, he isnt even entertaining lmfao. He also Sucks balls at starcraft and was never good.

hasan at least stands for something and knows accurately that cracker is not a fucking racist statement

Hasan is jokes his Brand is also way better than "sweaty dark basement troll getting angry that people can afford Homes in LA rather than screech to 200 viewers about something or other Destiny is right"


Also noted lol. I guess I'm going to have to actually go deep into their sources instead of believing that others have read and understand it.
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Jan 19 2022 07:09am
Quote (Crunkt @ Jan 19 2022 07:51am)
Destiny is a troll strawman dumbass.

in my opinion

I dont know why anyone listens to that basement dwelling strawman arguing screeching yuts. His debate skills re about as good as a 4 year old talking over his mom. and ontop of that as you point out, he isnt even entertaining lmfao. He also Sucks balls at starcraft and was never good.

hasan at least stands for something and knows accurately that cracker is not a fucking racist statement

Hasan is jokes his Brand is also way better than "sweaty dark basement troll getting angry that people can afford Homes in LA rather than screech to 200 viewers about something or other Destiny is right"


I'd agree with you if we were talking about Destiny during the SC2 era. He has cleaned up his community and has been trying to becomr a more charitable and civil person after the mowing down protesters rant from last year. I'd recommend looking at his more recent content. David Pakman is alright but too vanilla for my taste. Also he doesn't really engage with people of differing opinions.
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Jan 19 2022 07:19am
Quote (kenw @ 19 Jan 2022 08:09)
I'd agree with you if we were talking about Destiny during the SC2 era. He has cleaned up his community and has been trying to becomr a more charitable and civil person after the mowing down protesters rant from last year. I'd recommend looking at his more recent content. David Pakman is alright but too vanilla for my taste. Also he doesn't really engage with people of differing opinions.



I guess I just saw him debate David Pakman and very quickly as soon as Destiny was clearly wrong and going off base he changed the argument to how David says things and it influences people when he says things and 'David dont you know how you says things influences people?'.. This is as if Destiny doesnt believe that David or anyone of the thousands of viewers understand the basic results of conversation and speaking to people. Destiny was too busy trying to be correct about the already well known understand of how this all works... The whole speaking to people and having a platform ting. Destiny kept pushing on and on about "David dont you understand this' and that was his legit strawman argument to be right. Destiny never had friends was a nerd loser who played starcraft his whole life then realized he liked the sound of his own voice more than playing starcraft. So now When he has these strawman arguments all the fucking time he is just rtrying to prove simple basic human interaction stuff because he is just figuring it all out now as a 4x year old and everyone else is like way above him in understanding to the point where its like ya 'Ya Destiny, thats how talking works bro' and then Destiny got all happy to be right about being able to understand how converstaion works. Destiny is i dont know man he is really immature like again he is arguing like a grade 8 highschooler type mango bag when everyone else went to university fam. Like Desinty, ur dumb bro.

I also know that last year when Hasan bought a mansion Destiny like raged about it like a jealous little girl for like 3 weeks going on saying the most ignorant stuff liek 'I didnt think Socialists would buy a big house etc' just really again highschool youtube comment level trash arguments for weeks straight. Destiny was just jealous that Hasan has a wayyyyy fucking better brand and it irks Desinty cuz Destiny is a follower, super pleb. Destiny sits there legit on his streams saying things like 'Im so much smarter than Hasan why does he get more viewers" legit he says things like that.

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Jan 19 2022 07:20am
Quote (TiStuff @ 19 Jan 2022 07:37)
i have been doing this for quite some time. one could say i was on a similar quest quite some time ago maybe a decade. I ended up christian :) something i never expected


How did you end up Christian?
I don't think my upbringing will allow me to believe.
Still damaged.
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Jan 19 2022 07:39am
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 19 2022 05:20am)
How did you end up Christian?
I don't think my upbringing will allow me to believe.
Still damaged.


"How did you end up Christian?"
(due to health problem i was not working and stuck at home. got an idea stuck in my mind one day that i would find "the truth of it all". God not on my mind at all i started with money what it was where it came from. from there everything kinda exponentially expanded into just about everything. perhaps why your quest gets my attention.)

"I don't think my upbringing will allow me to believe.
Still damaged."
(damaged people is who Jesus is looking for. cant do a whole lot for the "perfect" people)

Luke 5:32
“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
King James Version (KJV)
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Jan 19 2022 07:43am
Quote (TiStuff @ 19 Jan 2022 08:39)
"How did you end up Christian?"
(due to health problem i was not working and stuck at home. got an idea stuck in my mind one day that i would find "the truth of it all". God not on my mind at all i started with money what it was where it came from. from there everything kinda exponentially expanded into just about everything. perhaps why your quest gets my attention.)

"I don't think my upbringing will allow me to believe.
Still damaged."
(damaged people is who Jesus is looking for. cant do a whole lot for the "perfect" people)

Luke 5:32
“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
King James Version (KJV)


Yes I know about Christianity and Jesus.
I've tried.
Pretty sure I have PTSD but I can't afford doctors.
I don't think a church can heal me.
JSP is my church anyway. I joined probably 2 years after the worst images that were seared into my brain.
There's a reason I'm here to spread cheer and try to get everyone not yelling at each other :)
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