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Dec 23 2021 06:39pm
Quote (Sioux @ Dec 23 2021 06:28pm)
Lol. Typical its a google search away.

Regardless how do the ghouls on the right always come up with alternative explanations when their terrorists murder someone? Why are you pivoting away so hard?


Can you stream yourself google searching it in real time? Id drop a tip just to watch
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Dec 23 2021 06:40pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 23 2021 04:39pm)
Can you stream yourself google searching it in real time? Id drop a tip just to watch



Typical right wing ghoul
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 23 2021 06:58pm)
Its not manslaughter if he didn't cause the death, and the overwhelming physical evidence established that Floyd died of a drug overdose from the bag of pills he swallowed immediately prior to being arrested, with zero evidence indicating Chauvin's restraint caused the death. You've continually peddled a line of 'muh dishonesty' but you refuse to acknowledge the fact that every single possible indicator for restraint causing the death was absent, while the indicators for the drug overdose causing the death weren't just present, they were present at almost cartoonish levels of lethality. No bruising, no subdermal trauma, no petechial hemorrhaging, no broken bones, no damage to scalp or skull or brain or chest wall or neck or face or occult trauma, no markings of any kind from Chauvin's knee- but 3:1 left ventricular hypertrophy, 90% blocked coronal arteries, 540g cardiomegaly, history of hypertension, 11 ng/mL fentanyl, polysubstance abuse with positive meth, THC, caffeine, a previous incident of him nearly dying overdosing on the same pills and the partially digested pills he spat back up recovered at the scene.

Manslaughter, like murder, still requires that you caused the death. The physical evidence in the Chauvin case was clear, Chauvin didn't cause the death.


Oh! You're just confused about the facts!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/medical-examiner-who-ruled-george-floyd-s-death-homicide-blames-n1263670

Its on the death certificate and everything.
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Dec 23 2021 07:01pm
despite the fact that pigs and mrs piggy are just that, the NWO is about no conscience so if an officer shows remorse in a wrongful action then it's guilty as charged.
By giving unto god her sincere apology, satan accused her for having sought forgiveness.

It's a game of true love vs twisted lusts. She did the right thing in repenting.




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Dec 23 2021 07:05pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 23 2021 03:30pm)
So to review for the people who don't understand the law:

Committing an unconscious mistake that results in death is not manslaughter unless you made prior decisions that directly created the risks.
If you make a driving mistake and kill someone, its not criminal if you had been obeying all the laws, driving cautiously and responsibly up until the moment of that unconscious mistake.
If you were on your phone, or drinking and driving, or speeding, or running red lights- it means you made the conscious decision to engage in reckless behavior that created the risks of the mistake, thus the unconscious mistake is manslaughter.
Mens rea has to exist for it to be a crime, but mens rea doesn't have to be the intention to kill someone- that would make it murder.

For the state to convict Kim Potter of 1st degree manslaughter required them to prove that she killed Daunte Wright in the commission of a serious crime. They charged that her decision to use a taser constituted assault, and thus it didn't matter that the fact she used a gun instead was an unconscious decision without intent, what mattered is that by deciding to use a taser on Daunte Wright in the first place, she was committing a serious crime, and thus the unintentional death of the victim of her serious crime constituted 1st degree manslaughter.

So understand that difference. The state proved to a jury that Kim Potter was illegally trying to use a taser, and that even if she had used the Taser as she intended and Daunte Wright was never killed, she should still have been convicted of aggravated assault and battery and sent to prison for years. Defense counsel Earl Grey provided a very poor defense for this where he tried to explain these matters of fact and law, tried to put out the logical holes and catch 22's in the state's arguments and their use of prejudicial evidence. He gave his speeches like his audience were law students. The prosecutors got up and put on displays of emotional family members with nothing material to the case, just crying, then made their arguments about how cops can't be trusted, cops stick up for each other, cops are lying bastards, all cops are bastards, etc. A very blunt use of naked prejudice by the prosecutors, counting on a jury of randomly selected Hennepin County residents to live up to their reputation as the most prejudiced, anti-cop county in America. As long as Kim Potter was wearing a uniform, they'd convict her of anything the prosecutors slapped at her


Undoubtedly. I'm actually surprised that she was convicted on both charges. Until we have robots as jury members though, a good lawyer needs to know how to read a jury and sell the argument to them. If I were her, I would have gotten a black defense attorney.
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Dec 23 2021 07:06pm
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 23 2021 04:51pm)
Oh! You're just confused about the facts!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/medical-examiner-who-ruled-george-floyd-s-death-homicide-blames-n1263670

Its on the death certificate and everything.


Yea, but the defenses expert witness testimony fits his narrative best, so he gets to be right anyway.
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Dec 23 2021 07:07pm
Quote (Sioux @ Dec 23 2021 07:40pm)
Typical right wing ghoul


Goom is one of the few independents here. My opinions about social policy scare him shitless.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 23 2021 05:58pm)
Its not manslaughter if he didn't cause the death, and the overwhelming physical evidence established that Floyd died of a drug overdose from the bag of pills he swallowed immediately prior to being arrested, .


Can you point to where "bag of pills from the autopsy" came into evidence?
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 23 2021 08:39pm)
Can you point to where "bag of pills from the autopsy" came into evidence?


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Quote (Superman @ Dec 23 2021 01:42pm)
Enough with racism against white people dude.


But against blacks? Open season.
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