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Dec 10 2021 09:29am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 10 2021 10:14am)
Okay, I was sloppy when I phrased my previous post. You are right that lower middle management often times is still close to the employees and that their pay is usually adequate for the tremendous workload and pressure they have to endure. What I was referring to as being the lackey of shareholders is everyone from "upper middle management" up to the C-suite level.


even then its not strictly shareholders vs employees, these CEOs also give themselves massive raises based on profits they make from wage stagflation amidst pandemic labor shortages, taking away paid holiday time, reducing or stagnating benefits, etc.

do shareholders have their significant role, yes. do they also do this to get a new yacht, yes. fuck kellogs, next conveyor i design for them will fail a month after the warranty date is up.

the profit difference from just closing the plant on Christmas and New Years day would have been largely insignificant. or allow people to volunteer for a half shift. its purely malice.

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Quote (addone @ Dec 9 2021 06:41pm)
I've worked in several big companies before deciding to being my own boss. Never had any problems, Asked for a pay raise and got it. Got lots of free training and certificates. The pay wasn't great but I knew exactly what I signed up for.
Bonuses are a motivational carrot, one should never rely or make it a sole reason to work for that company. No one even told me there are bonuses is that some new Gen Z concept?

Employers usually don't care about you is because you are a worker bee just like the rest of the people there. You are there to perform a function. If you want a caring employer make a family business and only family


So we're using individual anecdotal evidence to paint the entirety of unionized workforces as bad? LOL. I can play that game. I work for a Fortune 100 company, and I did ask for a higher raise before my annual review two years ago (before COVID), and I made my case for it based on my work. I got the same 3% COLA raise like everyone else.

It's really easy for an employer to slap down one employee. It's a lot harder to do it when there are 10,000.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Dec 10 2021 10:31am)
So we're using individual anecdotal evidence to paint the entirety of unionized workforces as bad? LOL. I can play that game. I work for a Fortune 100 company, and I did ask for a higher raise before my annual review two years ago (before COVID), and I made my case for it based on my work. I got the same 3% COLA raise like everyone else.

It's really easy for an employer to slap down one employee. It's a lot harder to do it when there are 10,000.


individual employees did ask for raises at Kellogs, as well as exceptions to the draconian rules, and were told to talk to the union or give up their severance package and quit.

this idiots takes in this thread are so bad id guess they were rolling if he wasnt trying so damn hard.
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Dec 10 2021 09:41am
I support unions.

Leftists who claim to support unions largely enable them to be crushed because you've turned a blind eye to corporate greed in favor of your obsession with vaccines and trump.
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Quote (Nibthebarb @ Dec 10 2021 09:41am)
I support unions.

Leftists who claim to support unions largely enable them to be crushed because you've turned a blind eye to corporate greed in favor of your obsession with vaccines and trump.


"leftists" are literally the only group in America actually supporting unions.
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Dec 10 2021 10:16am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 10 2021 11:08am)
"leftists" are literally the only group in America actually supporting unions.


the GOP supports police, prison workers, and a few other workers very strongly. even construction workers unions have big state and local GOP support.

factory worker unions tho, LOL
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Dec 10 2021 10:21am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 10 2021 10:16am)
the GOP supports police, prison workers, and a few other workers very strongly. even construction workers unions have big state and local GOP support.

factory worker unions tho, LOL


and their support for those unions includes right to work laws :D
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and their support for those unions includes right to work laws :D


in wisconsin Scott Walker literally targeted every union he could that was made up of liberals and didnt touch the GOP supported ones at all. he gave raises to cops and prison guards with his state senate, lobbied for more UAW contracts, etc. and targeted the teachers unions.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 10 2021 08:08am)
"leftists" are literally the only group in America actually supporting unions.


Most republicans under 40 are probably more pro union than you. The boomer wing of conservative America is dying off and irrelevant. The future is populism. The future of the Democrat party is being indistinguishable from the corporate monopolies that give them their marching orders.
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Quote (Nibthebarb @ Dec 10 2021 10:52am)
Most republicans under 40 are probably more pro union than you. The boomer wing of conservative America is dying off and irrelevant. The future is populism. The future of the Democrat party is being indistinguishable from the corporate monopolies that give them their marching orders.


Its just precious that you think the boomer wing of conservative America isn't still firmly in control and actively manipulating the narrative.

Just.... Precious.
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