Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 24 2021 01:30pm)

nazis are honest and admit being a bunch of fascists. commies lie about it.

if it wast for the uniform you couldnt tell the difference between the two goosestepping fascists

Quote (SanduLungu @ Nov 24 2021 09:13am)

stalin killed well over 20m russians.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 24 2021 10:34am)

the problem is you've in your simple brain decided "fascist" means "person who wants to control and do harm to me".

there's lots of groups of people, political or otherwise, that want those things. that doesnt make them a follower of the political ideology of fascism.

do you typically find words so difficult? or do you just find that your best function in conversation is to dumb down words in an attempt to make salient points?

Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 24 2021 06:57pm)

Really? Substantiate this claim.

Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 24 2021 02:07pm)

well? nope, i took the definition from merriam-webster.com › dictionary. let me show it to you again

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Fascism Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › fascism

Quote (SanduLungu @ Nov 24 2021 11:07am)

wikipedia. im sure there is a record somewhere with each and every death documented, 20 million+ rows, to keep you satisfied.

it's also a well known thing.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 24 2021 08:35pm)

I looked at it and the number isn’t substantiated. 10 million were people who were exiled or left on their own. Most of that number left. Not killed, left. Some were killed but they were monarchists and terrorists so who cares? 1 million were prisoners. Not dead, prisoners. Way smaller prison population than the United States, too. 3 million were Ukrainians who died of starvation because anti-communist kulaks and right wing Ukrainian nationalists destroyed 50% of the crops as a scorched earth tactic to prevent the USSR from distributing them to the starving people in the cities. The remaining 6 million were Nazis killed in WW2.

Quote (SanduLungu @ Nov 24 2021 12:42pm)

think you need to reread. 20m are the russians non army that were massacred by stalin.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 24 2021 08:47pm)

I did read. You are lying.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 24 2021 03:47pm)

I did read. You are lying.

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Prior to the dissolution of the Soviet Union, estimates of Gulag victims ranged from 2.3 to 17.6 million (see History of Gulag population estimates). Mortality in Gulag camps in 1934–40 was 4–6 times higher than average in the Soviet Union. Post-1991 research by historians accessing archival materials brought this range down considerably.[94][95] According to a 1993 study of archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag from 1934 to 1953.[4]: 1024  However, taking into account the fact that it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or near death,[18][19] a combined statistics on mortality in the camps and mortality caused by the camps gives a probable figure around 1.6 million.[2][3] In contrast Anatoly Vishnevsky estimated total number of those who died in imprisonment in 1930–53 is at least 1.76 million, about half of which occurred between 1941–43 following the German invasion.[96][97] If prisoner deaths from labor colonies and special settlements are included, the death toll according to J. Otto Pohl rises to 2,749,163, although the historian who compiled this estimate (J. Otto Pohl) stresses that it is incomplete, and doesn't cover all prisoner categories for every year.[19][5] Anne Applebaum estimates 3 million perished due to the Gulag camps.[98]

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The "liquidation of the kulaks as a class" was announced by Stalin on 27 December 1929.[8] The decision was formalized in a resolution, "On measures for the elimination of kulak households in districts of comprehensive collectivization", on 30 January 1930. The kulaks were divided into three categories: those to be executed for treason or imprisoned as decided by the local secret political police; those to be exiled for treason to Siberia, the north, the Urals, or Kazakhstan, after determined to be traitors, the government's confiscation of their property occurred; and, those considered traitors or were guilty of terrorism were to be evicted from their houses and used in labour colonies within their own districts.[8]

According to Robert Conquest, the combination of the elimination of kulaks, collectivization, and other repressive policies contributed to mass starvation in many parts of Soviet Ukraine and the death of at least 7 to 10 million peasants in 1930–1937.[8]