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Nov 4 2021 12:45pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 4 2021 11:39am)
Just because someone is too poor to afford shelter, it does not mean they can commandeer public spaces. Doesn't matter if it's a basic need. I can say that food is a basic need but that doesn't mean I can force grocery stores to feed me just because I am hungry.


This is why we have food stamps and soup kitchens. Until the supply of housing exceeds the demand for housing, the government says that destitute people may claim public spaces. Honestly, it really isn't that bad of a thing since public spaces are so huge.

Quote (lolkggz @ Nov 4 2021 11:37am)
Link me
The part in the law that says anyone can claim public property owned by the government of the state.


I don't know where it is offhand, I just saw it on Tucker Carlson and then the History Channel did a segment on it.
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Nov 4 2021 12:48pm
He Might get acquitted or be able to claim some form of self defense in 1 MAYBE 2 of these but no way he gets out of there without at least 1 murder charge.


Mfw "sKatTeBoArdS r DeaDly" his defense rofl.
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Quote (kclla @ Nov 4 2021 11:48am)


Mfw "sKatTeBoArdS r DeaDly" his defense rofl.


Almost anything that's somewhat hard or sharp can be used as a weapon, if such is the intention. Heck, even pillows can be used to kill people.
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He Might get acquitted or be able to claim some form of self defense in 1 MAYBE 2 of these but no way he gets out of there without at least 1 murder charge.


Mfw "sKatTeBoArdS r DeaDly" his defense rofl.


Bare hands can be deadly.

Especially when you are outnumbered.
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Quote (lolkggz @ Nov 4 2021 11:43am)
I also want to verify your stance that you're taking.

The city builds a new skate park and announces it for public use on the news, someone goes there and skates on it as intended and gets almost beat to death because 5 people claimed it "their area"

This was okay by your terms and you believe this, yes?


I don't condone violence, but once the squatters made a public claim to the area (which they ostensibly did), then your friend was trespassing by law. He should have gone straight to the mayor's office to have them evicted because they probably could have gone elsewhere. A lot of gang members exploit this provision in order to claim territory. That's why they are always on staircases/street corners instead of inside buildings.
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Quote (thundercock @ Nov 4 2021 11:45am)
This is why we have food stamps and soup kitchens. Until the supply of housing exceeds the demand for housing, the government says that destitute people may claim public spaces. Honestly, it really isn't that bad of a thing since public spaces are so huge.



I mean, I agree that the destitute can say, sleep on the streets. Maybe this is what you meant by "claim public spaces". However, what they can't do is to tell other people to leave, or to get out, because the spaces they are on belong to the public. It's not their private, personal property.
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Nov 4 2021 12:53pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 4 2021 11:52am)
I mean, I agree that the destitute can say, sleep on the streets. Maybe this is what you meant by "claim public spaces". However, what they can't do is to tell other people to leave, or to get out, because the spaces they are on belong to the public. It's not their private, personal property.


It becomes private once they claim squatter rights. The mayor can override this claim though and move them to a more suitable location.
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Nov 4 2021 12:55pm
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It becomes private once they claim squatter rights.


Is this how things work in your country? Holy shit, I cannot believe it.

Imagine me going to the central park in New York and just "squat". Now the park belongs to me.
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Nov 4 2021 01:01pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 4 2021 12:55pm)
Is this how things work in your country? Holy shit, I cannot believe it.

Imagine me going to the central park in New York and just "squat". Now the park belongs to me.


You're from Canada its the same laws.

Thats why if people walk through your yard for 20 years and you never say anything there's now an easement for a path through your yard as a public walking trail.

This is why you see no trespassing signs and gates, you just have to prove you made an effort to communicate its private property but if you don't you're not legally allowed people to get off your lawn if its now a public walking path.

Same with skidoo trails, atv trails etc. That is why you see those no trespassing signs all through the woods in random places so the person can give evidence they made an honest effort and thus an easement is not formed.

Its the exact same with squatting and property here in Canada.

Ultimately a lot of people don't know and they end up fucked with footpaths through their yards in cities and in rural areas they end up with club paths all over their lands. I don't understand why its not taught in school.

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Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 4 2021 01:55pm)
Is this how things work in your country? Holy shit, I cannot believe it.

Imagine me going to the central park in New York and just "squat". Now the park belongs to me.


I've looked all over for "Squatters rights on public property" and I can't find a lick.
Private property I can find squatters rights.
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