Quote (excellence @ Oct 12 2021 05:33am)

he’s got a point look how desolate and directionless so much of the population is. 250k might seem a lot but it’s probably accurate now in any sort of city or relatively affluent suburb where dual income is necessary to get ahead and send kids to proper schools. plus throw in prices of everything from everyday goods to materials being fubar. hard to save when youre a working/middle class person that has to pay $50 to gas up with unleaded. also that 250k is closer to 150k post taxes and a great deal of the population is saddled with all sorts of debt.

tcock and i are probably around the same age; growing up one could still have a relatively high-earning houshold with just one worker and one stay a home parent and still be solidly middle class +. not a failsafe scenario for a decent upbringing but still reasonable.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 12 2021 01:31am)

Which is weird cuz its not that hard.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 12 Oct 2021 09:10)

i get all your points, its still an amount of money that at least 95% of families do not have and never will

but yeah, 6 figures are necessary to escape the worst in the america

i grew up in the 90s and can report the same, my dads salary was plenty for everything including a nice 4 week vacation every single year for 4 people

now they are happy enough to afford a vacation at all with two incomes and no children to pay for, its crazy how the living standard has gone down and most people are completely ignorant

Quote (excellence @ Oct 12 2021 07:05am)

which is what the powers that be want. they want the former achievables of the middle class to be out of reach. jack up prices on everything and then blame the few who manage to achieve it as the “enemy” who needs to pay more taxes

Quote (JessiWan @ 12 Oct 2021 10:21)

I am only speaking for myself but when I talk about "income redistribution", I am not talking about the middle to upper-middle classes. I want obscenely wealthy capitalists (think the owners of wal-mart, Bill gates, the Rothschilds..etc) to give some of their wealth to the rest of us. I am 99.999% sure they did not earn their wealth, most of it was earned for them by their middle-class employees. True middle class, the ones who studied in school, worked hard to achieve what they have now, are not my target.

Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 12 2021 04:21pm)

I am only speaking for myself but when I talk about "income redistribution", I am not talking about the middle to upper-middle classes. I want obscenely wealthy capitalists (think the owners of wal-mart, Bill gates, the Rothschilds..etc) to give some of their wealth to the rest of us. I am 99.999% sure they did not earn their wealth, most of it was earned for them by their middle-class employees. True middle class, the ones who studied in school, worked hard to achieve what they have now, are not my target.

Quote (excellence @ Oct 12 2021 04:05pm)

which is what the powers that be want. they want the former achievables of the middle class to be out of reach. jack up prices on everything and then blame the few who manage to achieve it as the “enemy” who needs to pay more taxes

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 12 2021 09:53am)

no, most people cant handle money so it would be a gigantic waste with absolutely zero results

Quote (HomeRun916 @ Oct 12 2021 01:28am)

I guess some guys just don’t know how to keep a woman happy. 🤷‍♂️

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DEAR ABBY: I have a 23-year-old daughter, “Julia,” who I am close with. She has been in a relationship with “Joey,” a guy her age, for four years and living with him for the last 16 months. Joey’s a great kid who hasn’t had a lot of support in his life. I have been like a mother to him, and we are very close. He works hard, earned a college degree and plans on a career in law enforcement. I love him like my own.

The issue is, Julia has been working a part-time evening job. She works with a man I’ll call “Nick,” who is 10 years older and has a child. She has started having an affair with him. She claims to love Joey but is “torn” because she’s bored and wants to “have fun.” I am upset and devastated.

From the sound of him, Nick doesn’t have many great qualities. I believe she’s making a grave mistake and risks losing a great future. I have tried getting her to see it, but I don’t think I’m getting through. Should I continue or back off and see what happens? I feel like I am betraying Joey because I know about this. — TORN-APART MOM

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 12 2021 04:59pm)

Good argument for the government controlling most people's spending. Just give them alotments of food, housing, etc. More efficient right?

Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 12 2021 06:38pm)