Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 30 2021 06:23pm)
I'm not worried about myself, I already am as protected as I'm going to be for now. I do this for those that are more at risk, like a friend of mine who had kidney failure at 26 many years ago and is now part of the at risk population who cannot get vaccinated yet.
also I have no doubt most of the unvaccinated folks will live
from what I've read so far about 3 out of 100 or so will die, 10-20 or so of the 97 that live will suffer critical organ failuresthe question is what do you feel you have to lose by taking the vaccine? would you rather roll the dice with the vaccine or with covid?
https://i.redd.it/tw1sn02rijk71.pnghttps://i.redd.it/ahuff5p5lik71.jpghttps://i.redd.it/drgbnqey5hk71.jpgthis is a nuanced discussion as i'm not anti-vax. my issues are with how they are being implemented and promoted to be mandated.
this is also not a "one-size fits all" situation. i do not believe everyone needs to be vaccinated.
let me start with how dumb the bold is, and how you are only backing this up with twitter memes.
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/926424Quote
A new study published in the journal Nature estimates that 103 million Americans, or 31 percent of the U.S. population, had been infected with SARS-CoV-2 by the end of 2020. Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health researchers modeled the spread of the coronavirus, finding that fewer than one-quarter of infections (22%) were accounted for in cases confirmed through public health reports based on testing.
according to your stats and this study, that's a lot of critical organ failure due just from 2020. add on another year of infections and let me know the math you get...
on a real note. there are issues with so many people getting vaccinated.
if you were to get "90% of people vaccinated", this could theoretically create a mono-immunization. if that immunization was broken, it is broken for everyone, as everyone has a near identical defense.
naturally, viruses tend to get more contagious and less deadly. a virus is trying to do 1 thing. make more virus. it cannot replicate and spread if you are dead.
saying that, i believe that people who are at low risk of serious complications and/or death, should build the better natural immunities. "for the good of humanity". but i also believe that to be "your" choice.
to the Pfizer vaccines...
there were 2 letters released that day from the FDA, not 1.
this one was a grant to the Pfizer vaccine
https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/downloadi'll start with this,
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Under this license, you are authorized to manufacture the product, COVID-19 Vaccine,
mRNA, which is indicated for active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019
(COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)
in individuals 16 years of age and older.
then,
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You may label your product with the proprietary name, COMIRNATY, and market it in
2.0 mL glass vials, in packages of 25 and 195 vials.
We did not refer your application to the Vaccines and Related Biological Products
Advisory Committee because our review of information submitted in your BLA, including
the clinical study design and trial results, did not raise concerns or controversial issues
that would have benefited from an advisory committee discussion.
i could think of some controversial issues....
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We have determined that an analysis of spontaneous postmarketing adverse events
reported under section 505(k)(1) of the FDCA will not be sufficient to assess known
serious risks of myocarditis and pericarditis and identify an unexpected serious risk of
subclinical myocarditis.
Furthermore, the pharmacovigilance system that FDA is required to maintain under
section 505(k)(3) of the FDCA is not sufficient to assess these serious risks.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.htmlQuote
Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), particularly in adolescents and young adults. There has not been a similar reporting pattern observed after receipt of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine (Johnson & Johnson).
In most cases, patients who presented for medical care have responded well to medications and rest and had prompt improvement of symptoms. Reported cases have occurred predominantly in male adolescents and young adults 16 years of age and older. Onset was typically within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and cases have occurred more often after the second dose than the first dose. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports of myocarditis and pericarditis following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
CDC continues to recommend COVID-19 vaccination for everyone 12 years of age and older given the risk of COVID-19 illness and related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death.
i want to add that the "approved" vaccine, has studies that won't finish until 2023-2024. which matters for the second letter that was put out.
here's the second letter, which matters because it seeks "EU" emergency usage for the vaccine that has "approval"
https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/downloadQuote
On August 23, 2021, FDA approved the biologics license application (BLA) submitted by
BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) for active
immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and
older.
On August 23, 2021, having concluded that revising this EUA is appropriate to protect the public
health or safety under section 564(g)(2) of the Act,FDA is reissuing the August 12, 2021 letter
of authorization in its entirety with revisions incorporated to clarify that the EUA will remain in
place for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for the previously-authorized indication and
uses, and to authorize use of COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) under this EUA for
certain uses that are not included in the approved BLA. In addition, the Fact Sheet for
Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccine (Vaccination Providers) was revised to provide
updates on expiration dating of the authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and to
update language regarding warnings and precautions related to myocarditis and pericarditis. The
Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers was updated as the Vaccine Information Fact Sheet for
Recipients and Caregivers, which comprises the Fact Sheet for the authorized Pfizer-BioNTech
COVID-19 Vaccine and information about the FDA-licensed vaccine, COMIRNATY (COVID19 Vaccine, mRNA).
i'll add that i linked the wrong video on my prior post, the second link should have been this.
https://rumble.com/vlmqk9-episode-1197-pfizer-is-seeking-full-indemnification.htmlThis post was edited by tagged4nothing on Aug 30 2021 06:06pm