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Jul 5 2021 05:54am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 5 2021 07:52am)
Uneducated on top of being lazy.
Relaying too much on foreign education which is why they import foreign scientists to work in states.


Such as?
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 5 2021 11:24am)
Except they aren't imported French varieties. We have bread our own varieties and that's been done for like over 100 years now.

Hell, even Missouri kicks your ass in wine now. I know because it's like the only thing Missouri is good at. Breeding our own varieties of grapes, and getting drunk.


Have never heard about it, must be meaningless or from your imagination.

The best wine bottles in the world are in france I am sorry for you, in the caves of some of the best restaurants there and there is no chance that you will ever come close to taste it.

Quote (said_aouita @ Jul 5 2021 01:42pm)
Americans eat processed food way too often. Other countries eat fresh food, not processed to last longer on the shelves. Fast and junk food are only a portion of the problem. Plus, American's are generally lazy.


that may explain why microwaves oven went so popular. in the same timelapse the avg time dedicated to making dinner dropped like by 3 and obese people went by +200%.

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Such as?


doctors from france. where do you think these degenerates gets all their knowledge from ? money.
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Jul 5 2021 09:39am
Quote (Melatonina @ 5 Jul 2021 08:09)
what you still dont understand is that calories aren't that important to look at. soda being better than pasta, only someone from america could ever say something that clueless
quality of food is, so good pastas can be better than dead vegetables fed with round up for sure since one is poison and the other is just not optimal food let's say.
that is why home made garden always wins, even with construction site soil I managed to make something very fertile in a few years


Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 5 Jul 2021 08:28)
I mean, I'm not saying soda is good, I'm saying it's not the number one problem if you're drinking 200 calories of soda and eating 1500 calories of pasta. In America, our issue generally isn't soda, it's that all forms of carbs are incredibly cheap.


I think another huge factor to consider is processed food. In America, EVERYTHING is heavily processed and it's just a lot harder than in Europe to come by clean, natural food.


edit: oops, said_aouita already brought up this point.

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Jul 5 2021 11:50am
never thought i would see a wine battle here :rofl:

you can find decent wine in a lot of places, but the frenchies are still top in the premium category

but even with some good wine america still has shitty bread, shitty beer and (mostly) shitty whiskey

deal with it
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Jul 5 2021 11:53am
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never thought i would see a wine battle here :rofl:

you can find decent wine in a lot of places, but the frenchies are still top in the premium category

but even with some good wine america still has shitty bread, shitty beer and (mostly) shitty whiskey

deal with it


"Premium" isn't based on anything meaningful.

Quality and taste of wine isn't correlated with price.
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Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 5 2021 08:08am)
Have never heard about it, must be meaningless or from your imagination.

The best wine bottles in the world are in france I am sorry for you, in the caves of some of the best restaurants there and there is no chance that you will ever come close to taste it.



that may explain why microwaves oven went so popular. in the same timelapse the avg time dedicated to making dinner dropped like by 3 and obese people went by +200%.



doctors from france. where do you think these degenerates gets all their knowledge from ? money.


A lot of your grapes are grafted from American grapes due to a blight you guys had. I suggest learning more about wine because the world has changed substantially.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 5 2021 07:53pm)
"Premium" isn't based on anything meaningful.

Quality and taste of wine isn't correlated with price.


It's not meaningful to you because you ignore the required technique to produce the excellence

keep drinking soda imo

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A lot of your grapes are grafted from American grapes due to a blight you guys had. I suggest learning more about wine because the world has changed substantially.


I suggest you stop being delusional kid because thats french people who sells wine to americans not the reverse thanks
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Quality and taste of wine isn't correlated with price.


It's of course not a perfect correlation, but claiming that there is not association or correlation at all is laughable.

Just today I saw several unsophisticated tourists carry their wine in 3 liter plastic cans from Aldi across the parking lot. This kind of ultra cheap wine will of course taste like shit...

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A lot of your grapes are grafted from American grapes due to a blight you guys had. I suggest learning more about wine because the world has changed substantially.


clusters are french, roots belong to native americans ...
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 5 2021 05:14pm)
It's of course not a perfect correlation, but claiming that there is not association or correlation at all is laughable.

Just today I saw several unsophisticated tourists carry their wine in 3 liter plastic cans from Aldi across the parking lot. This kind of ultra cheap wine will of course taste like shit...


Once you get above like $20 a bottle there's no correlation.

Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 5 2021 04:57pm)
It's not meaningful to you because you ignore the required technique to produce the excellence
keep drinking soda imo
I suggest you stop being delusional kid because thats french people who sells wine to americans not the reverse thanks


The "required technique" that produced wines even 20 years ago is inferior to modern wine making techniques in just about every way. That's why in 2005 California swept France in blind tasting competitions with expert French wine manufacturers as the judges. They then tried to censor their loss by banning the organizer from as many wine organizations and competitions as possible, before eventually accepting that their techniques were inferior.
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