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May 27 2021 04:53pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 27 2021 05:54pm)
Obama hurt the economy, he didn't help the economy.

Without basic details like that, your opinion is worthless.

The numbers expose your lies and fraud.

https://www.westernjournal.com/middle-class-income-4100-trump-rose-1k-obama-bush-according-economist-stephen-moore/



Facts don't care about your feelings.


LMAO what kind of delusion are you living in, and you clearly didn't read what i posted.

wages dont magically just grow because 1 man got elected president. coming off the obama years the economy has been in expansion cycle, in expansion cycle wages typically grow. acting like this was all trumps doing is baffling to anyone with an even basic knowledge of economics.
to quote yourself, facts dont care about your feelings. keep thinking daddy trump saved ur life.

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May 27 2021 04:58pm
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LMAO what kind of delusion are you living in, and you clearly didn't read what i posted.

wages dont magically just grow because 1 man got elected president. coming off the obama years the economy has been in expansion cycle, in expansion cycle wages typically grow. acting like this was all trumps doing is baffling to anyone with an even basic knowledge of economics.
to quote yourself, facts dont care about your feelings. keep thinking daddy trump saved ur life.


Obama had to create hundreds of thousands of fake government jobs because the private sector growth was negative. Go back to stupidland.
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May 27 2021 05:02pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 27 2021 06:58pm)
Obama had to create hundreds of thousands of fake government jobs because the private sector growth was negative. Go back to stupidland.


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just because you have a manlet sized brain doesnt mean you have to be that stupid LOL
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May 28 2021 11:33am
Quote (IceMage @ May 27 2021 06:20pm)
Maybe the right-wingers here should've thought about the ramifications of supporting a lifelong Democrat taking over the Republican party. He didn't care about fiscal conservatism, and now Republicans can't even pretend to any longer. So we have two fiscally irresponsible parties, one that favors the rich, and one that favors the middle and lower class. I know which one I side with.


One party says spend x. The other says spend 2x. In a binary political world even if both are irresponsible a reasonable person would choose the one that does less spending.

Lets be honest, you care more about optics and what the mainstream point of view is in who you support, you don't base your support on actual policy.
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May 28 2021 01:46pm
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One party says spend x. The other says spend 2x. In a binary political world even if both are irresponsible a reasonable person would choose the one that does less spending.

Lets be honest, you care more about optics and what the mainstream point of view is in who you support, you don't base your support on actual policy.


Perhaps if the person has an extremely short-term view of politics. A political party losing can be beneficial for it's long-term health. If the selling point of the Republican party is that they spend less than Democrats, while Democrats are going batshit crazy with spending, it's worth pondering what would happen if voters refused to go along with the Republican party abandoning fiscal sanity. But when so many on the right pretend that a Democrat winning is the end of America, so they'll support Republicans no matter what, there's no self-correction possible.

Republicans in 4 years lost the Presidency, House, and Senate. Is anyone on the right(outside of those who've always been anti-Trump) talking about what went wrong? You can't correct a problem if you don't acknowledge it exists.

I'm going to ignore the silly attack at the end.

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May 28 2021 02:24pm
you gotta love it when lefties whined about trumps tax cuts and making politics for the rich

and then they vote biden in, who cant get people back to work and instead causes a massive inflation

the rich are getting richer, more than any tax cut ever would make them and the poor are getting WRECKED

people are so stupid, they celebrate biden throwing money at them, when in reality its their own downfall into a depression we havent seen since 1929

good luck with that
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May 28 2021 02:24pm
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One party says spend x. The other says spend 2x. In a binary political world even if both are irresponsible a reasonable person would choose the one that does less spending.

Lets be honest, you care more about optics and what the mainstream point of view is in who you support, you don't base your support on actual policy.


I think you're confusing "actual policy" with "stated policy". Republicans have a lot of stated policy, but their actual policy is quite different. They state they are fiscally conservative, but in actuality they are just as much into spending as Democrats and want tax cuts on top of it.
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you gotta love it when lefties whined about trumps tax cuts and making politics for the rich

and then they vote biden in, who cant get people back to work and instead causes a massive inflation

the rich are getting richer, more than any tax cut ever would make them and the poor are getting WRECKED

people are so stupid, they celebrate biden throwing money at them, when in reality its their own downfall into a depression we havent seen since 1929

good luck with that


We're early in Biden's presidency... COVID has distorted the economy.

But the current economic numbers aren't a justification for Trump's trickle-down economic policy. He inherited an economy going up, Biden inherited one going down(as per usual with Democrats taking over for Republicans). Maybe Biden is spending too much, but that's also not a justification for Trump's tax cuts for the rich.

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you gotta love it when lefties whined about trumps tax cuts and making politics for the rich

and then they vote biden in, who cant get people back to work and instead causes a massive inflation

the rich are getting richer, more than any tax cut ever would make them and the poor are getting WRECKED

people are so stupid, they celebrate biden throwing money at them, when in reality its their own downfall into a depression we havent seen since 1929

good luck with that


You can just acknowledge both are bad like a responsible and honest person.

Although I think Biden's "bad" is limited to having unemployment going on for about a month too long. We should probably be shutting off the extra unemployment benefits now instead of waiting for them to expire (ZOMG THOR AGREES WITH SOME REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW. TAKE A PICTURE), but that's not something you can know ahead of time.

In a year most things will have equalized back out, unemployment will have been over for a long time, and hopefully we don't hit a mortgage crisis from lifting the eviction moratorium.

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May 28 2021 02:51pm
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You can just acknowledge both are bad like a responsible and honest person.

Although I think Biden's "bad" is limited to having unemployment going on for about a month too long. We should probably be shutting off the extra unemployment benefits now instead of waiting for them to expire (ZOMG THOR AGREES WITH SOME REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW. TAKE A PICTURE), but that's not something you can know ahead of time.

In a year most things will have equalized back out, unemployment will have been over for a long time, and hopefully we don't hit a mortgage crisis from lifting the eviction moratorium.


actually i dont since trump also put a lot of extra money into the pockets of the middle class

the top 1 percent paid 40,1% of the entire income tax in 2018 according to the tax foundation

thats plenty

we have the same situation in germany, when all the moratoriums end things will get ugly real quick

there are so many people who cant pay up and are piling up debt plus bankrupt businesses we dont know about yet
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