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May 13 2021 04:15pm
Quote (fender @ May 13 2021 11:02pm)
it's more than just my personal position, your whole "the left denies israel's right to exist" point is a lie, a commonly used narrative to dismiss any criticism of israel's right wing government. sure, there are SOME extremists who might do so - but they are clearly the exception. so acting like it's a widespread majority position amongst leftists is ignorant at best...


Among the hard left it is a popular position. Stop with the phony outrage, it's unbecoming
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May 13 2021 04:17pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 14 May 2021 00:05)
To add to that: a lot of leftists hide their true intentions behind political demands which sound innocuous at first glance, but which would, in practice, end Israel as we know it.


and by 'end israel' you mean take some of the threats, that palestinian political leaders made, literally (even though they have neither the support nor the means to do so), act like that's what will happen if israel stops the indiscriminate imprisoning, torturing, and killing of palestinians, and thus conclude that you have to support the current apartheid regime - in order to prevent the "inevitable annihilation of israel" if palestine was free, lol. it's an old and all too familiar "argument", maybe try to think of something new because that one is silly and flawed...
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May 13 2021 04:28pm
Quote (dro94 @ 14 May 2021 00:15)
Among the hard left it is a popular position. Stop with the phony outrage, it's unbecoming


it's neither outrage nor phony, you're just in desperate need of some education. you're simply wrong on this one. denying israel's right to exist is NOT a popular position amongst leftist. you won't be able to find a single poll that supports your moronic claim, so you might as well stop lying about it. i don't know if you're just so gullible that you uncritically accepted that narrative, if you're too proud to admit that your little bothsidesism failed, or if it's a bit of both - but a smarter and more honest person than you would have looked into the issue before doubling down on their baseless claims...
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May 13 2021 04:58pm
Quote (fender @ May 13 2021 11:28pm)
it's neither outrage nor phony, you're just in desperate need of some education. you're simply wrong on this one. denying israel's right to exist is NOT a popular position amongst leftist. you won't be able to find a single poll that supports your moronic claim, so you might as well stop lying about it. i don't know if you're just so gullible that you uncritically accepted that narrative, if you're too proud to admit that your little bothsidesism failed, or if it's a bit of both - but a smarter and more honest person than you would have looked into the issue before doubling down on their baseless claims...


If only I was as smart as you, I might understand nuance
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If only I was as smart as you, I might understand nuance


at least you wouldn't uncritically regurgitate baseless talking points all the time, sure...
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May 13 2021 05:04pm
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If only I was as smart as you, I might understand nuance


If only we all could be as erudite as the Enlightened One, his high exalted fender.
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May 13 2021 05:06pm
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The majority of Americans remain partial toward Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with 59% saying they sympathize more with the Israelis

59% of americans are Jewish? i never knew
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May 13 2021 05:09pm
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The majority of Americans remain partial toward Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with 59% saying they sympathize more with the Israelis

59% of americans are Jewish? i never knew


Does that mean the other 41% are Muslims?
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May 13 2021 05:13pm
Quote (Santara @ May 13 2021 04:09pm)
Does that mean the other 41% are Muslims?


must be. otherwise nobody would support either side
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