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Mar 18 2021 01:55pm
Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 18 2021 04:33am)
A murderer who targets one particular race because of a (so-called) addiction, is still considered a racist.

Was Trump's "kung-flu" comment about covid racist?



You’re both racist.
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Mar 18 2021 01:58pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 18 2021 02:13pm)
youre the one who believes some notion that if a virus originated in Bolivia or Madagascar that people would call it the China virus.

the “white trash” comment is funny coming from a racist pale pasty privileged lefty. keep at it, makes us laugh everytime

reported, btw



there is evidence Covid-19 originated in China. In 2020-2021 acknowledgement of this is deemed “racist” by the same pale pasty privileged lefties who demand that Asians be called White for “educational” purposes


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I think nuclear white trash like you and Trump would only name a virus after a competitive country based on the lack of caucasian population. I highly doubt you would do it if it were Canada, UK, Scandinavia, etc, but Mexico and China are fair game. Brown skin and slinty eyes scary!!!

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84474439&f=119&p=566319388

And how's your conservative brother doing - I'm sure he loves to say China virus over and over again. It's like music to his ears. I wonder if you guys have the balls to say China virus in front of an actual Chinese person without feeling embarassed.


Yeah Excellence, shut up you white trash white man.
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Mar 18 2021 02:10pm
Taking advantage of a crisis to push dishonest politics is generally looked down upon. ~60% of hate crimes against asians are committed by blacks and other asians anyway so the “i hate whitey” race baiting is utter horseshit.
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Mar 18 2021 02:16pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 18 2021 04:10pm)
Taking advantage of a crisis to push dishonest politics is generally looked down upon. ~60% of hate crimes against asians are committed by blacks and other asians anyway so the “i hate whitey” race baiting is utter horseshit.


You can be racist without commiting hate crimes. Just go to a game lobby or a "based" discord group to find out and most if not all are white - they are just too coward to manifest it irl especially while conversing with a black, mexican or Asian people.

This post was edited by kenw on Mar 18 2021 02:17pm
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Mar 18 2021 02:18pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 18 2021 03:10pm)
Taking advantage of a crisis to push dishonest politics is generally looked down upon. ~60% of hate crimes against asians are committed by blacks and other asians anyway so the “i hate whitey” race baiting is utter horseshit.


nice try but hate crimes require privilege and white or near white skin. so blacks cant do them. but Asians can because they have ivy league privilege and some even have white skin.
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Mar 18 2021 02:32pm
Quote (kenw @ 18 Mar 2021 15:34)
I think nuclear white trash like you and Trump would only name a virus after a competitive country based on the lack of caucasian population. I highly doubt you would do it if it were Canada, UK, Scandinavia, etc, but Mexico and China are fair game. Brown skin and slinty eyes scary!!!




a spirit bomb of a doozy of all time fail posts lmao :lol:

hey if you think “brown skin and slinty eyes” are scary that’s your prerogative, “kenw”

Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Mar 2021 15:58)
Yeah Excellence, shut up you white trash white man.

i read tom sawyer when i was young. must be why he is randomly calling me “white trash”
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Mar 18 2021 02:56pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 18 2021 03:32pm)
^thesnipa ^bazi

a spirit bomb of a doozy of all time fail posts lmao :lol:

hey if you think “brown skin and slinty eyes” are scary that’s your prerogative, “kenw”


i read tom sawyer when i was young. must be why he is randomly calling me “white trash”


lol

I haven’t come to pard since we got that investment section

I mean the Asian American attacks that are occurring are certainly an issue and representative of underlying resentment. I think Bush for all his faults made it very clear that brown Americans are not the people responsible and as American as anyone else during 9/11 times. As a brown 13 yr old kid it felt nice having that support whether it made any realistic difference or not. I think the analogous statements from Trump weren’t that genuine by comparison.

However, the virus came from China. I have been very clear about where I stand and how if they showed proper transparency the world would not have been as crippled. Does America get a pass for handling it as atrociously as we possible could have. Of course not. Should China get a pass for this nonsense and have no accountability? I prefer not, and prefer it to be a global effort. Does it matter if we call it China virus , Wuhan virus , etc? I mean we have historically named viruses /bacterial variants off regions they originated. A common extremely scary bacterial plasmid is named after New Delhi where it originated, cuz everyone and their dog can get antibiotics with no oversight there.

Idk what we are talking about tho. im making assumptions based on 2 posts cuZ no reading comprehension and have to get nursery done in next couple hours
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Quote (Bazi @ 18 Mar 2021 21:56)
lol

I haven’t come to pard since we got that investment section

I mean the Asian American attacks that are occurring are certainly an issue and representative of underlying resentment. I think Bush for all his faults made it very clear that brown Americans are not the people responsible and as American as anyone else during 9/11 times. As a brown 13 yr old kid it felt nice having that support whether it made any realistic difference or not. I think the analogous statements from Trump weren’t that genuine by comparison.

However, the virus came from China. I have been very clear about where I stand and how if they showed proper transparency the world would not have been as crippled. Does America get a pass for handling it as atrociously as we possible could have. Of course not. Should China get a pass for this nonsense and have no accountability? I prefer not, and prefer it to be a global effort. Does it matter if we call it China virus , Wuhan virus , etc? I mean we have historically named viruses /bacterial variants off regions they originated. A common extremely scary bacterial plasmid is named after New Delhi where it originated, cuz everyone and their dog can get antibiotics with no oversight there.

Idk what we are talking about tho. im making assumptions based on 2 posts cuZ no reading comprehension and have to get nursery done in next couple hours


this is not at all about giving china, or more specifically the ccp a pass, hell no. those fucks should absolutely pay for their lack of transparency and diligence, not that i expect that to happen. it's about deliberate fear- and hate-mongering.

for example, many of the covid-19 mutations are commonly known as the "variant" from where they developed / were discovered / are widespread, like the british, the south african, or the brazilian (manaus) variant - and hardly anyone is suggesting those are "racist" or "bigoted" terms.
the main distinction, imo, is that the "china virus" re-branding was a deliberate effort by conservatives to focus on the likely origin, even though the virus already had at least two widely accepted and used names - and that (if not deliberately, at the very least predictably) lead to increased anti-asian hostilities.

in general i would agree, there's nothing inherently racist or wrong with naming a disease after a region - but doing so in a calculated move, to stoke division and mistrust (or to appear "tough on china" without actually doing anything meaningful), is a shitty move - especially in a society as poorly educated, ignorant, divided, and prone to racism as america...
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Quote (UmadLoL @ Mar 18 2021 03:55pm)
You’re both racist.


How am I a racist?
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In 1993, Claude Hannoun, the leading expert on the Spanish flu at the Pasteur Institute, asserted the precursor virus was likely to have come from China and then mutated in the United States near Boston and from there spread to Brest, France, Europe's battlefields, the rest of Europe, and the rest of the world, with Allied soldiers and sailors as the main disseminators.[67] Hannoun considered several alternative hypotheses of origin, such as Spain, Kansas, and Brest, as being possible, but not likely.[67] In 2014, historian Mark Humphries argued that the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines might have been the source of the pandemic. Humphries, of the Memorial University of Newfoundland in St. John's, based his conclusions on newly unearthed records. He found archival evidence that a respiratory illness that struck northern China (where the laborers came from) in November 1917 was identified a year later by Chinese health officials as identical to the Spanish flu.[68][69] However, no tissue samples have survived for modern comparison.[70] Nevertheless, there were some reports of respiratory illness on parts of the path the laborers took to get to Europe, which also passed through North America.[70]

One of the few regions of the world seemingly less affected by the Spanish flu pandemic was China, where several studies have documented a comparatively mild flu season in 1918.[71][72][73] (Although this is disputed due to lack of data during the Warlord Period, see Around the globe.) This has led to speculation that the Spanish flu pandemic originated in China,[73][72][74][75] as the lower rates of flu mortality may be explained by the Chinese population's previously acquired immunity to the flu virus.[76][73][72]

A report published in 2016 in the Journal of the Chinese Medical Association found no evidence that the 1918 virus was imported to Europe via Chinese and Southeast Asian soldiers and workers and instead found evidence of its circulation in Europe before the pandemic.[64] The 2016 study suggested that the low flu mortality rate (an estimated one in a thousand) found among the Chinese and Southeast Asian workers in Europe meant that the deadly 1918 influenza pandemic could not have originated from those workers.[64] Further evidence against the disease being spread by Chinese workers was that workers entered Europe through other routes that did not result in a detectable spread, making them unlikely to have been the original hosts.[59]


never knew that
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