I forgot what that snorlax was upset about 🤔

Because we didn't read her rage essays

she claimed that the EU was demanding the UK's vaccine supply and got upset when she was told it's a lie.

She was screaming "keep this hate speech off our campus" at a conservative speaker.

No. I think represented yourself very well. With lots of judgement and emotion. Without much substance.


So back on topic it is reported today a French minister has said France could follow Italy in blocking shipments of vaccines, as they attempt to rollout vaccines.

Also the French PM reiterating that the AZ vaccine is suitable for use.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/05/europe/france-vaccine-italy-astrazeneca-intl/index.html

I'd question how effective the EU vaccine rollout has been. With approximately 6% population receiving first dose.

Have they been slow to approve the AZ vaccine which has been proven effective?
Why did they release statements that it was ineffective in over 65 age group?
Should EU citizens feel let down by their bloc's leaders?
Has the EUs layers of bureaucracy reduced its ability to act quickly and effectively?

you're obviously free to delude yourself as much as you want, but repeatedly LYING and misrepresenting what i said is hardly something an intelligent and emotionally stable person would be proud of.

on topic: as an EU citizen i feel absolutely let down, and acknowledge there have been some major (bureaucratic) fuck-ups that prevented a faster and more reliable rollout. from a selfish perspective i'd say it was a stupid decision to coordinate it EU wide in the first place, but i get why it was made, and do appreciate the spirit behind it.
of course i hope we won't see the kinds of numbers that the UK suffered (in terms of infections and deaths), but either way, i certainly want to see some heads on spikes - because with all the medical infrastructure and all the negotiating power we have as an economic bloc, with all the taxes that were put into developing and producing the european vaccines, we should at the very least have kept pace with the US and the UK when it comes to vaccinations.

there is plenty of blame and criticism that can and should be leveled against the EU when it comes to covid, particularly the vaccination efforts, but that does not mean i won't call out the lies of ignorant propagandists who treat this as some kind of remedy for their post brexit butthurt.

You did so well until, see bold.
If that is levelled towards me, I personally voted to remain In the EU. As did the majority of Scots.
I will say though it doesn't appear that Scottish or British identifying people are butthurt about anything.
The layers of buearocracy are truly frightening. Not to mention the figures on youth unemployment. Spain's being around 50%
If anyones butt is hurting, it is Brussels.

Approximately
110k covid positive deaths in UK
And 70k in Germany

So neither of these are figures are anything to be proud of. As for cases, France has over 3million live cases. So I wouldn't compare the EU statistics favourably against the UK or anyone.

The aim shouldn't be to compare but to condemn leaders and governments where they have failed. It underlines that the average person should not have faith in government to act in their health or interest.

Covid is a relatively less dangerous virus than what could be experienced. So are we really prepared for anything like that to happen? Absolutely not.

why do you keep doing that? implying things i never said? i don't think almost 72k deaths are something to be proud of at all, i'm merely saying that i hope that as a result of the botched vaccine rollout we won't see the kind of death rates that the UK unfortunately suffered (which are, so far, simply even less favourable. that's just a fact). you gripe about comparing statistics, saying this shouldn't be our "aim", but in the same post mention a completely unrelated stat about youth unemployment in spain, for whatever reason - only to follow THAT up by insisting brussels is butthurt. i mean, i had a good chuckle, but you genuinely don't seem to realise how that looks, huh?

that said, and this is me speaking as a german, not as an EU citizen: i DO feel that in this particular situation, our government DID prioritise our health, which is more than i would say about the likes of trump, johnson, or bolsonaro for example. ofc that doesn't mean every official acted wisely and competently (our minister of health for example should most definitely resign imo) in all regards, or that i'd blindly trust them with other things, but when it comes to merkel's approach to covid, i genuinely feel it was with the best intentions in mind and comparatively competent, which admittedly is a relatively low bar...

back to the EU: its often debilitating bureaucracy (though not quite as absurd as the likes of nigel farage would have you believe) has long been one of my main criticisms, and most certainly played a role in the whole vaccination mess. again, these are points i fully agree with, and definitely want to see accountability for. that does, however, not mean that i stop distinguishing between fact-based criticism, and the kind of dishonest smears that some ignorant / butthurt people tend to make here - something you are most definitely and by a long shot NOT the worst at.

I'm not concerned with how anything looks, I have conviction in the points I've made.

It's very contradictory. Saying the gov put peoples health first, and yet the health minister should resign?

Brexit was mentioned in a flippant comment. I brought up a statistic on unemployment as it shows if anyone is hurting, it is EU citizens.
And not only after Brexit.

I can only speak for myself but my experience is that EU and Germans in particular are very salty about Brexit.
It's like a messy divorce, where one party can't seem get over the breakup.

The collective bargaining with vaccine companies only highlights what the EU may be most afraid of.
That one size doesn't always fit all.

Cooperation is good, but autonomy gives you better leverage
With better results for citizens.

indeed, so much conviction that you don't even bother with facts when they go against them, or notice the overt hypocrisy in your posts, lol...

it's funny how perception works though, huh? in my experience it's mostly brits that are extremely salty, constantly trying to portray themselves as victims, and making whole threads full of blatant lies and misrepresentations (i honestly don't see germans do that, they are mostly indifferent or relieved about the selfish cherry pickers, constantly demanding special treatment, being gone) to bitch about how terrible the EU is. i mean, they could blame the frauds that made the empty promises about how great post brexit britain would be, but that would mean facing the fact they fell for their transparent lies in the first place, and i guess it's just easier to engage in jingoistic ignorance and project your obvious butthurt onto others...