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Feb 7 2021 09:54am
Quote (Federalist #52)
A representative of the United States must be of the age of twenty-five years; must have been seven years a citizen of the United States; must, at the time of his election, be an inhabitant of the State he is to represent; and, during the time of his service, must be in no office under the United States. Under these reasonable limitations, the door of this part of the federal government is open to merit of every description, whether native or adoptive, whether young or old, and without regard to poverty or wealth, or to any particular profession of religious faith.


Author unknown for sure, presumed to be either Madison or Hamilton.

This post was edited by Santara on Feb 7 2021 09:54am
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Feb 7 2021 09:59am
This is more of an indictment of her voters.

Rick Wilson channels how I feel about them:

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Feb 7 2021 10:17am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 07:40)
Not sure how you don't understand the basics of democracy.


"Elect the stupid and incompetent repeatedly while insisting they shouldn't need to know how to do their job, let them install massive bureaucracies who can do their jobs for them, then throw up your hands and say 'that's just the way it is' when the government is so bloated and overwhelmingly huge that nobody knows who does what or why?"

Sounds like your ideal form of democracy, at any rate. The Republic as it was founded had a Congress. That Congress worked together to determine what would be in the Constitution and ratify it. Madison was a member of that Congress. Fun, huh? Not just a single Congressperson, but all of Congress working together to author legislation?

As it stands now, you have a select few who author legislation, often in huge omnibus packages, and give the rest of Congress a few hours to vote on it when they don't even understand the legalese without staffers' help. Sounds democratic to me!

Quote (Leevee @ 7 Feb 2021 07:47)
Who is or isn't qualified to carry out the job? How do you decide?


Job: Mop pusher
Job Duty: Push a mop
Job Requirements: Push a mop
How to determine Qualification: Applicant able to push a mop.

Job: Congressperson
Job Duty: Write, modify, and repeal legislation, and everything involved therein (such as voting for the legislation of others).
Job Requirements: A firm grasp of the legal process, legal code, legal writing, ability to interpret legislation to determine it's loopholes and unintended consequences.
How to determine Qualification: Win an election.

I dunno. It seems we're supposed to decide by either voting D or R, or maybe voting on the best haircut?
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 7 Feb 2021 11:17)
"Elect the stupid and incompetent repeatedly while insisting they shouldn't need to know how to do their job, let them install massive bureaucracies who can do their jobs for them, then throw up your hands and say 'that's just the way it is' when the government is so bloated and overwhelmingly huge that nobody knows who does what or why?"

Sounds like your ideal form of democracy, at any rate. The Republic as it was founded had a Congress. That Congress worked together to determine what would be in the Constitution and ratify it. Madison was a member of that Congress. Fun, huh? Not just a single Congressperson, but all of Congress working together to author legislation?

As it stands now, you have a select few who author legislation, often in huge omnibus packages, and give the rest of Congress a few hours to vote on it when they don't even understand the legalese without staffers' help. Sounds democratic to me!



Job: Mop pusher
Job Duty: Push a mop
Job Requirements: Push a mop
How to determine Qualification: Applicant able to push a mop.

Job: Congressperson
Job Duty: Write, modify, and repeal legislation, and everything involved therein (such as voting for the legislation of others).
Job Requirements: A firm grasp of the legal process, legal code, legal writing, ability to interpret legislation to determine it's loopholes and unintended consequences.
How to determine Qualification: Win an election.

I dunno. It seems we're supposed to decide by either voting D or R, or maybe voting on the best haircut?



Ya no your standard custodial staff cleans up more garbage and makes more change in a week than Congressmen do in their entire careers.

This post was edited by Crunkt on Feb 7 2021 11:00am
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Feb 7 2021 11:08am
Quote (Crunkt @ 7 Feb 2021 09:00)
Ya no your standard custodial staff cleans up more garbage and makes more change in a week than Congressmen do in their entire careers.


Can't argue that. Maybe we should flip the salaries and pay the custodial staff $174K/year and pay Congresspeople minimum wage. :)
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Feb 7 2021 11:11am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ 7 Feb 2021 12:08)
Can't argue that. Maybe we should flip the salaries and pay the custodial staff $174K/year and pay Congresspeople minimum wage. :)


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Feb 7 2021 11:15am
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Feb 2021 22:59)
This is more of an indictment of her voters.

Rick Wilson channels how I feel about them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUO5HBvTM8

makes sense you’re still 100% aligned that nasty group of grifting criminals and sicko behavior enablers

https://www.wmur.com/article/former-nhgop-chair-jennifer-horn-parts-ways-with-anti-trump-lincoln-project-super-pac/35435373

https://thehill.com/homenews/536677-lincoln-project-co-founder-john-weaver-accused-of-sending-provocative-messages-to

https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1355897589980422144

even Biden told his staff to not associate with this group but cnn and pale pasty privileged lefties like you can’t help themselves huh. disgusting..
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Feb 7 2021 11:19am
Quote (Crunkt @ 7 Feb 2021 09:11)


Ironically, if we did flip the salaries of custodial staff and Congress, I suspect we'd see a $50/hour federal minimum wage by the end of the week. :/
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2021 05:17pm)
Job: Mop pusher
Job Duty: Push a mop
Job Requirements: Push a mop
How to determine Qualification: Applicant able to push a mop.

Job: Congressperson
Job Duty: Write, modify, and repeal legislation, and everything involved therein (such as voting for the legislation of others).
Job Requirements: A firm grasp of the legal process, legal code, legal writing, ability to interpret legislation to determine it's loopholes and unintended consequences.
How to determine Qualification: Win an election.

I dunno. It seems we're supposed to decide by either voting D or R, or maybe voting on the best haircut?


I agree with those qualifications. It's just that, based on "how to determine qualification", everybody who gets elected into a seat is automatically qualified for the job.

I think I have missed what the point was.
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Feb 7 2021 01:36pm
Quote (Leevee @ 7 Feb 2021 11:25)
I agree with those qualifications. It's just that, based on "how to determine qualification", everybody who gets elected into a seat is automatically qualified for the job.

I think I have missed what the point was.


My original point/post was simply put that well over 50% of our Congresspeople aren't "qualified" based on carrying out their duties. They have to rely on staff or other more legally educated Congresspeople telling them what's what. That being said, this topic about a random Freshman Congressperson? Pointless. I see no difference between her and any other Congressperson who doesn't hold a JD.

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