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#61
Nov 22 2020 03:34am
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Nov 22 2020 04:14am)
I mean you're wrong but that will be decided in court and although I have consulted lawyers and law students on this subject neither you nor I are in fact lawyers. So we'll just have to see.


compelling argumentation
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#62
Nov 22 2020 03:37am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 22 2020 06:22pm)
it is pretty reasonable to shoot a madman chasing after you and grabbing for your gun. It doesn't get much more reasonable than that.


In my country he would have been arrested for walking around with a semi automatic rifle and no one would have died, its not perfectly reasonable for a 17 year old dipshit to be walking around with a rifle in what's basically a warzone whether you think so or not.
Heres how this idiot could have been safe:
Staying at home.
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#63
Nov 22 2020 03:38am
Quote (cambovenzi @ 22 Nov 2020 09:34)
compelling argumentation


Not gonna argue law with you cambo.

Like I said - neither of us are qualified and juries are unpredictable anyway.
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#64
Nov 22 2020 03:41am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 21 2020 09:27pm)
So the non aggression principle is fine with antagonising people? Then it doesn't exist and you might as well just admit your entire viewset is built on bullshit.
Showing up at a blm rally in maga gear IS an act of aggression, its a direct challenge that will certainly be answered, if you are ok with this and not ok with the consequences then you are a hypocrite.

By your logic i can walk into a police station wearing a "Fuck pigs" tshirt and shoot any cop who comes at me in "self defence".


Protecting private property is not an act of aggression. That we need to debate this really shows how far the public discourse has fallen. Counter-protests are a thing, if BLM protesters show up at a MAGA rally that, of course, does not give anyone the right to go shoot them for some imagined crime of antagonization.
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#65
Nov 22 2020 04:20am
no point arguing with murder apologists. everybody knows why rittenhouse, illegally in possession of a firearm, went there. he got his wish, shot three people, and killed two. defending his actions, rationalising and downplaying them with moronic misrepresentations just makes you scum.
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#66
Nov 22 2020 07:19am
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Protecting private property is not an act of aggression. That we need to debate this really shows how far the public discourse has fallen. Counter-protests are a thing, if BLM protesters show up at a MAGA rally that, of course, does not give anyone the right to go shoot them for some imagined crime of antagonization.


Private property is an act of aggression.

It implies using force to stop me from doing something just because you yelled to the sky that you have exclusive rights to use something.
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#67
Nov 22 2020 07:59am
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The videos show Rosenbaum pursuing and chasing Kyle over a long distance.
He started sprinting at him, threw a bag at him and chased him into a parking lot. A shot rang out by someone else and kyle turned to see the madman running at him and closing the distance. Kyle's shots are heard right after.
Clear self defense.






God forbid someone gets hit by a bag. In fact, this is the same reason why parents should shoot children having pillow fights.
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#68
Nov 22 2020 08:09am
Kyle was in the right
The neets that chased after him shoulda stayed at home
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#69
Nov 22 2020 11:28am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 21 2020 10:29pm)
For people with any grip on reality, what is more likely?

A ) People are supporting a kid who they reasonably believe defended himself and was subsequently demonized, smeared and imprisoned
or
B ) People are supporting actual murder and bailed him out even though they think he is guilty


C ) the narrative around this situation is so strong that we should assume that most of the info we read about it is unreliable. This is one of the handful of stories where powerful people have max motivation to put resources into creating a spin. Therefore, the fact that we weren't there to witness what happened should lead us to conclude that we aren't able to accurately characterize the situation. Of all the stories to care about, this is one that should consume one of the smallest amount of our thought energy.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Nov 22 2020 11:29am
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#70
Nov 22 2020 11:51am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 21 2020 07:40pm)
Remorse: deep regret or guilt for a wrong committed.

Defending himself wasn't a wrong.

He said he didn't regret arming himself and that he acted in self defense.

People have jumped on that to say 'omg this murderer doesn't even show remorse'.


I was simply saying that everyone should feel bad killing another person....even when necessary. The dead person still has a family you know...
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