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Nov 5 2020 03:21pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 5 2020 02:43pm)
Regarding what? AFAIK, the only thing that was sided with was that no ballots postmarked after 11/03/2020 would be counted, but those received up through 11/06/2020 and postmarked by 11/03/2020 would be counted.

I know there was a revisiting aspect, but has it been? Thought everything was still solid on that front. That actually supports the "the State determines it's own elections" remark.

As far as I know, the only clauses that were shot down were shot down at the PA court level, and the dems were trying to sneak in that any ballots that didn't have the postmark should be "assumed to have been received by" which is absolutely not okay, and that was shot down.

Am I misinformed in the PA case, or has something new happened?


You're correct. Those would be accepted, I didn't know they ruled on that already though. I think what is currently happening is they want it stopped until they have established Poll Watchers in place or something. Like you said, stuff is always changing.

And this whole thing, I totally think Joe Biden might win, but it's definitely going to go to the courts. If you're Joe, you might want to take legal action against Georgia or similar states if Trump won. Who knows, that's an incredibly close race. It's going to be a mess. And if the courts happen, then you know whatever is decided is decided.

Can basically guarantee the ruling ends up going to the Supreme Court in some way in the end here. What happens there, I don't know.

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Nov 5 2020 03:22pm
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From the looks of it, the ACORN employees did give serious answers in how to violate the law. I mean, editing things out of context is done every day to target all kinds of organizations, and indeed, the POTUS, and has been done for a long time.

Did the employees give advice on how to run an illegal sex trafficking business? Yes. Did they think it was serious? Probably not. Is it illegal to give such advice? Not that I'm aware of. Is it distasteful and immoral? Probably.

They weren't convicted of any criminal wrongdoing, nothing happened to the employees. They simply lost their funding for being hoebags who'd rather give advice on a sex trafficking ring than tell O'Keefe to gtfo and possibly report him to police.

Note: I'm playing devils advocate here, but this is the perfect example of one of those "Entrapment schemes". There's no "fabrication". The employees said what they said. That's what led to their loss of funding and ended up wiping out ACORN.

I still need evidence of an actual fabrication. Just as with the "sharpee-memo" shit, if it's a hoax it's a hoax. If it's stupid people giving stupid advise and losing their funding over it, that's their own fault for being stupid.


this behavior is repugnant and should invalidate a source to anyone decent if they do it. period.
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Nov 5 2020 03:26pm
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Can basically guarantee the ruling ends up going to the Supreme Court in some way in the end here. What happens there, I don't know.


This is the part I don't understand. You need a case to put before the Supreme Court. The case requires evidence. I don't see enough preponderance of evidence to justify any case at that level.

Again, I don't believe either side will have a Supreme Court case to present. Again, if it seems one is clear to be the loser and they don't want to accept, then halting at least 2-3 states in legal battles so they don't cast EV and neither gets 270, and it goes to House/Senate would be the conclusion.

I'm hoping it doesn't come to that, and doubt it will. But who knows.

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this behavior is repugnant and should invalidate a source to anyone decent if they do it. period.


It is indeed repugnant behavior. It does not, however, invalidate a source. If the employees had kicked them out or called the police, ACORN would still be around. Likewise, when they catch people not only committing fraud, but admitting it's a federal felony, that's not fabrication. Honestly dude, there was a time not so long ago that a LOT of journalists and news agencies were doing exactly this in their "deep dive reporting". The only difference is that you don't like Veritas.

Again, there are still people who believe Trump said a lot of things that he didn't say due to edited clips. This has been done nonstop. Watch the full and unedited clip with context, and suddenly it's like, "Oh. He didn't." I don't disagree that it's distasteful and O'Keefe is a dick. But that has nothing to do with credibility.

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Nov 5 2020 03:27pm
Kind of sounds like Biden will win GA? Or can.
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Nov 5 2020 03:29pm
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This is the part I don't understand. You need a case to put before the Supreme Court. The case requires evidence. I don't see enough preponderance of evidence to justify any case at that level.

Again, I don't believe either side will have a Supreme Court case to present. Again, if it seems one is clear to be the loser and they don't want to accept, then halting at least 2-3 states in legal battles so they don't cast EV and neither gets 270, and it goes to House/Senate would be the conclusion.

I'm hoping it doesn't come to that, and doubt it will. But who knows.


Yeah we'll see what happens. And what claims/evidence is presented if something does occur. Like you said, they will need a case.
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Nov 5 2020 03:45pm
Quote (GLYC123 @ Nov 5 2020 03:27pm)
Kind of sounds like Biden will win GA? Or can.


Its been said since election night its going to be within 0.1%
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Nov 5 2020 04:06pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 5 2020 02:59pm)
From the looks of it, the ACORN employees did give serious answers in how to violate the law. I mean, editing things out of context is done every day to target all kinds of organizations, and indeed, the POTUS, and has been done for a long time.
Did the employees give advice on how to run an illegal sex trafficking business? Yes. Did they think it was serious? Probably not. Is it illegal to give such advice? Not that I'm aware of. Is it distasteful and immoral? Probably.
They weren't convicted of any criminal wrongdoing, nothing happened to the employees. They simply lost their funding for being hoebags who'd rather give advice on a sex trafficking ring than tell O'Keefe to gtfo and possibly report him to police.
Note: I'm playing devils advocate here, but this is the perfect example of one of those "Entrapment schemes". There's no "fabrication". The employees said what they said. That's what led to their loss of funding and ended up wiping out ACORN.
I still need evidence of an actual fabrication. Just as with the "sharpee-memo" shit, if it's a hoax it's a hoax. If it's stupid people giving stupid advise and losing their funding over it, that's their own fault for being stupid.


You need to go actually look into the issues around Veritas. They're so blatantly dishonest that literally nobody outside of the fringe right takes them seriously.

You're betraying your ignorance when you take them seriously, and it will result in you getting blanked ignored by most people who are even passively informed on politics.
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Nov 5 2020 04:24pm
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You need to go actually look into the issues around Veritas. They're so blatantly dishonest that literally nobody outside of the fringe right takes them seriously.

You're betraying your ignorance when you take them seriously, and it will result in you getting blanked ignored by most people who are even passively informed on politics.


If you go back and review, it's pretty clear that I did not consider them a good source for any widespread fraud. They catch someone gathering 80 votes in the somali community or some stupid shit? Nobody cares.

Like, my biggest problem with your attack on their "credibility" is that it doesn't make sense. I would more enjoy you questioning the relevance of their videos.
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Nov 5 2020 04:32pm
Quote (Article @ Nov 5 2020 04:17pm)
When Hillary lost they didn’t drag it to December and take it to Supreme Court

Not for Romney
McCain
Jon Kerry
Al Gore

And they aren’t gonna do it for professor dickhead either. Just take the fucking L and move on


Na man let em keep arguing this is great.
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Nov 5 2020 04:34pm
Quote (Sh00p @ Nov 5 2020 02:32pm)
Na man let em keep arguing this is great.


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