He probably will say something about liberty and quote an economist who thinks children should be able to be trafficked, like Rothbard:

Creepy right wing economist.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 28 2020 01:42pm

Milquetoast compared to what? Radical communists who dont bother trying to make their views more coded and palatable?

Communism is evil garbage. Your mind has been poisoned. Become educated, or don't. Your choice.
I recommended reading.

Obviously its anecdotal, but Kamala got one of my roommates to not vote 3rd party for Jo and go cast for Joe/Kamala once she saw Kamala in the VP debate.
Basically seeing her act tough towards Pence made her more comfortable voting for them, especially with the prospect of Joe dying or bowing out in the near future.

World economy slipped during Chinese lockdown, economy was on an all time high before that. A dishonest person that's what you are




So you're a sick individual as well, but it doesn't surprise anyone here.

Don't think you upset me kiddo, I puke on the likes of you, all over your purple hair

100%, the side eye memes amount to actual votes. a few hundred or hundreds of thousands idk lol

Id love a bitch in the presidency.

Please step on me Mrs President

Obama voters in the Midwest turned against the Democratic party. Iowa is a great example.

For the "simplest answer" to be true, we need these voters to simultaneously have elected a black man and be upset about it. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Obama's race-baiting, on the other hand, (see Ferguson, Trayvon Martin) was definitely an aggravating factor.

US economy was already slipping pre-covid man read a fucking article that isnt from trump and doctored by his cronies lmao.

shifting suburban centrist voters and national polarization aren't the same thing. especially because centrist voters aren't subject to polarization as much as party line voters. its the party line voters that get out en masse to support trump and convert others, same for the bernie bros.

what im saying is pretty simple, if we are measuring the premise "polarization got way worse under Obama" then the lowest common denominator is racism. im willing to listen to the argument that polarization predates obama and the largest factor is outsourcing, thats my actual belief, but with obamas presidency in a bubble.....

edit: so are you saying Obama's "he could have been my son" comment is more effectual than Obama's blackness?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 28 2020 01:56pm

What fundamentally elected Trump is a shift of working class voters away from the Democratic party, voters who supported Obama's 2008 run.

Simultaneously, suburban voters who voted against Obama defected in an accelerated fashion towards the Democratic party.

The Republican additions were far more strategically placed, and had an outsized impact on the electoral map.

The working class vote has always been culturally aligned with Republicans. As the Democratic platform pivoted to coastal urbanites and minorities, they lost the hold that their economic policy had in shoring up working class support.

Edit: To summarize, the working class voters who helped elect Obama turned away from him, and the wealthy suburbanites who opposed his run now support his party. These trends predate Obama, but they accelerated during his administration.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Oct 28 2020 02:09pm