Quote (Skinned @ 6 Jul 2020 23:06)

Now we are at a point in history that women are actually considered people and not stuff.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 04:37pm)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as pedophilia, is in fact, hebephilia, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, ephebophilia. Pedophilia is not merely the attraction to anyone under 18, but rather a totally separate disorder (not a legal term) listed as a sexual-psychological disorder categorized under paraphilias, a group of sexual-psychological disorders in the DSM-IV and considered a disorder under the standards of the American Psychological Association. Many people could be considered ephebophiles despite the fact that they themselves may not know the term, much less what it means. Through a peculiar turn of events, ephebophilia and hebephilia became grouped under the very general and inconclusive cultural term "pedophilia," and the majority of people using the term are unaware that they are referring to non-paraphilic sexual preferences that are unmentioned in the DSM-IV and occur relatively harmlessly in a great deal of the population. There really is a pedophilia, and these people may be referring to it, but nevertheless it is a small part of what is labeled under "pedophilia." Pedophilia is labeled as a paraphilia because it is by nature unhealthy. Paraphilias are all unhealthy and destructive to relationships, but are restricted to the definitions set forth in the DSM. Pedophilia is simply grouped with the non pathologized conditions of hebephilia and hebephilia because they share a few similar traits. In reality, pedophilia separate from both and should be treated as such, and many people described as pedophiles would be better described as hebephiles or ephebophiles.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 02:37pm)

Still doesnt make it pathological for a man to feel attracted to some hot 17-year olds.


The tldr is really simple:

Attracted to fecund, postpubescent girls = normal from a biological perspective.
Attracted to prepubescent children = pathological.

Dunno, I just think that it's important to hold up this distinction and not trivialize actual pedophilia by lumping it together with something much more guileless.

Quote (inkanddagger @ 6 Jul 2020 17:46)

You aren’t necessarily wrong. The problem comes down to possible grooming and power imbalances. But it does come across as creepy when it gets interjected an as “akschually men are biologically supposed to be horny for seventeen year old girls!” in a discussion about pedophilia.

As I’ve told here before, my brother is a registered sex offender for having sex with his wife of 23 years because of a stupid law that no longer exists in Georgia.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2020 05:37pm)

Still doesnt make it pathological for a man to feel attracted to some hot 17-year olds.


The tldr is really simple:

Attracted to fecund, postpubescent girls = normal from a biological perspective.
Attracted to prepubescent children = pathological.

Dunno, I just think that it's important to hold up this distinction and not trivialize actual pedophilia by lumping it together with something much more guileless.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 7 2020 06:50am)

I really doubt that Bill Clinton or Trump are pedos in the actual sense, i.e. attracted to prepubescent children. Did they fuck girls between 16 and 18 while already an adult at some point in their lives? Most definitely. But actual pedophilia is an entirely different beast, and I really dislike language that trivializes such a heinous crime by lumping it together with biologically normal attraction to fecund females, which btw was perfectly normal and common throughout most of human history, but is restricted within a certain age range in modern societies (for good reason, dont get me wrong).

Quote (excellence @ Jul 6 2020 02:53pm)

what law is that? missionary only?

Quote (inkanddagger @ 6 Jul 2020 23:46)

You aren’t necessarily wrong. The problem comes down to possible grooming and power imbalances. But it does come across as creepy when it gets interjected an as “akschually men are biologically supposed to be horny for seventeen year old girls!” in a discussion about pedophilia.

As I’ve told here before, my brother is a registered sex offender for having sex with his wife of 23 years because of a stupid law that no longer exists in Georgia.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 6 Jul 2020 23:41)

Noted

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 6 2020 06:05pm)

Right. My brother was 17 and his girlfriend was 15. Age of consent is 16. Senior and sophomore. She got pregnant and a teacher who didn’t like my brother reported it and he was arrested from his classroom. So he can’t get jobs, live near schools, and has to register every time they move because he had sex with his wife. The passed the Romeo and Juliet law a few years later.