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Jun 23 2020 12:40pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 23 2020 02:27pm)
I mean, fuck...he took my initial comment the completely wrong way and ran with it. At no point was I even referring to Dem policy/platform with regard to association. My point was simply that a political party is an entity with which people can associate as members, supporters, candidates, etc. This is Civics 101-level shit.


Something being an entity that people can join doesn't mean people who oppose that entity want to abolish freedom of association as you falsely asserted.
'An entity that people can join' and freedom of association are not the same thing.

I did not claim you were referring to their position opposing freedom of association.
It was simply a relevant point in my favor.
Opposing an organization that forcefully enacts anti-freedom of association policies does not magically mean I want to abolish FoA.

It is not 'unlibertarian' to want a corrupt government criminal organization to be abolished.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 23 2020 02:28pm)
In my original comment I didn't mention any external force or any specifics at all.
I said "Abolish the democratic party" and you responded "ABOLISH FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION! HOW UNLIBERTARIAN!"

..right after whining when I joked the democratic party needs an exorcism when skinned said AOC was the soul of the party.

Abolishing the democratic party would be entirely consistent with libertarianism.

If I said "Abolish government" would pretend that means i'm for abolishing freedom of association and its not libertarian?
People voluntarily joined government after all, and that is your 'logical' standard.


Yes, and?

Did I state otherwise? No.
Does that refute any of my points? No

Just low IQ whataboutism from an unjustifiably arrogant leftist.



Leftist loser crying and defending democrats but cant scrape together enough brain cells to understand whats going on and make an intelligent point.


Abolishing someone elses political party, a violation of the NAP, is now consistent with libertarianism?

Are you making antifa's preemptive self-defense argument unironically here?


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Something being an entity that people can join doesn't mean people who oppose that entity want to abolish freedom of association as you falsely asserted.
'An entity that people can join' and freedom of association are not the same thing.

I did not claim you were referring to their position opposing freedom of association.
It was simply a relevant point in my favor.
Opposing an organization that forcefully enacts anti-freedom of association policies does not magically mean I want to abolish FoA.

It is not 'unlibertarian' to want a corrupt government criminal organization to be abolished.


You ARE making antifa's preemptive self-defense argument unironically here!

THIS IS GOLD.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 23 2020 12:42pm
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Jun 23 2020 12:50pm
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Abolishing someone elses political party, a violation of the NAP, is now consistent with libertarianism?

Are you making antifa's preemptive self-defense argument unironically here?


You are falsely asserting abolishing a government party is necessarily a violation of the NAP. Its not.

There would be nothing preemptive about it.
The democratic party is a long standing violent criminal organization that has been stealing, oppressing and murdering for many decades.
It should be abolished.
If they adhered to any standards other than double standards they would abolish it themselves. Democrats are the party of the KKK, racist identity politics and impoverishment.

Saying 'Abolish the democratic party' is categorically different from communists attacking innocent people and falsely claiming they are fascists and nazis as justification.
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Jun 23 2020 12:53pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 23 2020 02:50pm)
You are falsely asserting abolishing a government party is necessarily a violation of the NAP. Its not.

There would be nothing preemptive about it.
The democratic party is a long standing violent criminal organization that has been stealing, oppressing and murdering for many decades.
It should be abolished.
If they adhered to any standards other than double standards they would abolish it themselves. Democrats are the party of the KKK, racist identity politics and impoverishment.

Saying 'Abolish the democratic party' is categorically different from communists attacking innocent people and falsely claiming they are fascists and nazis as justification.

Weren't they violent at the same time they were socially conservative? That's quiet a while ago
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Jun 23 2020 12:54pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 23 2020 02:53pm)
Weren't they violent at the same time they were socially conservative? That's quiet a while ago


Today is not quite a while ago. They are violent now.
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Jun 23 2020 12:56pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 23 2020 02:54pm)
Today is not quite a while ago. They are violent now.


Who have they hurt or killed lately
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Jun 23 2020 12:57pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 23 2020 02:56pm)
Who have they hurt or killed lately


Millions of people.
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Jun 23 2020 12:58pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 23 2020 02:50pm)
You are falsely asserting abolishing a government party is necessarily a violation of the NAP. Its not.

There would be nothing preemptive about it.
The democratic party is a long standing violent criminal organization that has been stealing, oppressing and murdering for many decades.
It should be abolished.
If they adhered to any standards other than double standards they would abolish it themselves. Democrats are the party of the KKK, racist identity politics and impoverishment.

Saying 'Abolish the democratic party' is categorically different from communists attacking innocent people and falsely claiming they are fascists and nazis as justification.


Are the Democratic party waving jim crow flags and fighting to keep statues of racists up in their cities today?

Who did David Duke endorse for president?

Its amazing how Democrats can be called racists and race traitors all at once by you people lol.

Do black lives matter cam? Or are you on the side of oppressive state policing? Its rhetorical; we already know.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 23 2020 01:00pm
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Are the Democratic party waving jim crow flags and fighting to keep statues of racists up in their cities today?

Who did David Duke endorse for president?

Its amazing how Democrats can be called racists and race traitors all at once by you people lol.


Another attempt at whataboutism and delusions instead of addressing content and admitting falsehoods.
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Jun 23 2020 01:10pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 23 2020 03:01pm)
Another attempt at whataboutism and delusions instead of addressing content and admitting falsehoods.


Ok Cam. You only make hyperbolic statements, name call, and offer nothing of substance.

And your silence on this current authoritarian white house is deafening.

You call the democrats racist and race traitors with the same breath; you contradict yourself all the time.

You call people names that best describe you all the time. There is really no point in talking to you because people who disagree with you are just evil shitty people who hate freedom and goodness, and you say really really REALLY stupid things like democrats hurt and kill millions of people. Eyes can't roll hard enough at such an attention-seeking statement.
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