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Jun 21 2020 10:02am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 21 2020 11:23am)
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Yeah, looks like he was appointed as a temp guy, Trump forgot about him, and Barr only reminded Trump of his position as a temp guy when he started investigating Trump.


SDNY has been involved in Trump-related investigative matters since 2017/2018. There's been no reporting thus far as to why Berman was fired... who knows what they are investigating. The public isn't supposed to know.

Berman in his first response hints at Barr doing this for political and corrupt reasons. Right now SDNY is being run by Berman's #2, who is by all accounts a reputable person.

I'll say again, if Trump fired Berman because he was investigating wrongdoing by Trump or his associates, that's not exculpatory, it's incriminating.

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SDNY has been involved in Trump-related investigative matters since 2017/2018. There's been no reporting thus far as to why Berman was fired... who knows what they are investigating. The public isn't supposed to know.

Berman in his first response hints at Barr doing this for political and corrupt reasons. Right now SDNY is being run by Berman's #2, who is by all accounts a reputable person.



SDNY = Shenanigans Dept. of New York

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Jun 21 2020 10:13am
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/why-bill-barr-got-rid-geoffrey-berman/613339/

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But the real question is: Why? Why replace Berman now, just six months before the election?

The answer lies in the firing earlier this year of Jessie Liu, the former U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. By firing Liu, Barr and his team took control of the Washington, D.C., U.S. attorney’s office. Until they did that, the office was following up on various indictments and charges that had been brought against Trump’s associates. Once they seized control, Barr’s team intervened to short-circuit that process. They interceded in the sentencing of Roger Stone, and more recently, they have made an effort to dismiss the case against Michael Flynn. In both circumstances, career prosecutors were so outraged that they withdrew from the case, and some resigned from the Department of Justice altogether.

This is how an authoritarian works to subvert justice. He purports to uphold the forms of justice (in this case, the formal rule that the attorney general and the president exercise hierarchical control over the U.S. attorneys) while undermining the substance of justice. In the Flynn case, for example, Barr has asserted an absolute, unreviewable authority to bring and dismiss cases at will—a power that, even if legally well founded, is a subversion of justice when misused.

That may be the game plan for New York as well. Barr may want Berman out so that he can use his newly enhanced control to dismiss or short-circuit all of the pending cases in Manhattan that implicate Trump or his associates.

We know those are many. We know that Trump’s various organizations, including his inauguration committee, are under investigation. We know that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is under investigation. We know that Trump’s bank, Deutsche Bank, is under investigation.

Since taking office, Barr has repeatedly intervened to protect Trump. In addition to the behavior already mentioned, we might identify his attempt to protect Trump’s tax records from disclosure, or the way he distorted the true contents of the Mueller report. Barr’s actions are more like those of a consigliere to Don Trump than those of an attorney general of the United States, working for the American people.


This does seem like the most plausible scenario.
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Jun 22 2020 11:50am
yo ^IceMage
instead of speculating wildly without evidence, here's one from Dan Abrams claiming to have an anonymous-source-familiar-with-the-subject (so eh, take with grain of salt):
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/sdny-us-attorney-geoffrey-berman-got-fired-because-did-not-sign-william-barr-letter-questioning-george-floyd-protests-amid-pandemic-report/

Here the reason for the immediate action is pretty direct: Berman refused to sign a letter by Barr condemning De Blasio's selective enforcement of social distancing guidelines where he applied it to Jewish religious gatherings and specifically targeted the Jewish community and said so publicly, but then turned around and allowed George Floyd protests to continue unhindered and refused to enforce the social distancing guidelines on them, letting Black Lives Matter have free rein. And given the history of black vs jewish racial tensions in NYC, that was a pretty inflammatory thing people have been calling out over the past month.
The letter never got sent, presumably because of the dissension in the ranks by Berman and possibly others, and Barr's response was supposedly to replace him immediately
Of course there's some disclaimers here, the DoJ has a statement saying no single incident led to his firing, and even their anonymous source says Barr and Berman were never in direct communication over it. But it does fit a pattern of tensions:

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[T]wo people familiar with the matter said Mr. Berman’s refusal [to sign the letter] aggravated Mr. Barr, who already viewed Mr. Berman as obstinate and difficult to work with. He had been seeking a replacement for Mr. Berman, and when he learned in recent weeks that Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton was interested in the top prosecutor’s job he agreed that putting him in that role was a good idea, people familiar with that decision said.
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Jul 13 2020 05:05pm
The interview transcript was released today of Berman in front of the House Judiciary Committee. Marcy Wheeler has a thread on it. Really interesting stuff for those who followed this story:
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1282796302229798913


This particular nugget brought the lulz. It deals with the claim Goom made above.



This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 13 2020 05:18pm
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Jul 13 2020 05:12pm
Of course they try to can the investigators when their star witness is finally in custody :lol:
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