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Jun 1 2020 09:54pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jun 1 2020 10:27pm)
For the record, martial law is one of the grossest government overreaches that the POTUS or federal government can do. It's the definition of big government. It's the type of shit Conservatives said Obama would do to stay in office.

We libtards need the help of our libertarian brethren right now to take down this tyrant, who said China showed the 'power of strength' when previously commenting on the Tiananmen Square massacre. We liberals offer our own share of disgusting statist overreaches but perhaps none more than the nonsense we have seen out of Trump and co today, with Tom Cotton threatening the 10st Airborne against US citizens today and Trump retweeting it.


I'm starting to get more confident that Trump will not stay in office. There's a lot of reasons why.

1. He has not had any signature legislation or accomplishments.
2. The country is in a serious state of unrest.
3. Republicans have just generally not been okay with his childishness since day 1. When I worked at a phlebotomist for a mostly rural servicing hospital I heard a ton of "I've voted Republican all my life but this is ridiculous" and it hasn't stopped.
4. He has had absolutely nothing good happen in the foreign arena, and has had many mishaps that very deeply embarrassed him.
5. He's starting doing "typical politician" things, like the backtracking on tweets and the walk to the church today.
6. Even with everything possible going right for him in 2016 he barely squeaked by with a 70k vote margin
7. He's taking a deeply authoritarian turn, and even a lot of Republicans aren't fine with that.

We've got 5 months to go, and a looooooooooot can happen, but Trump is at an insane deficit right now.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 1 2020 09:55pm
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Jun 1 2020 09:55pm
Antifa is gay

Quote (Santara @ Jun 1 2020 07:47pm)
I'm too busy cheering on the Black Panthers to notice where the other gun nuts are.


for WAKANDAAAA

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Jun 2 2020 03:36am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 2 Jun 2020 05:54)
I'm starting to get more confident that Trump will not stay in office. There's a lot of reasons why.

1. He has not had any signature legislation or accomplishments.
2. The country is in a serious state of unrest.
3. Republicans have just generally not been okay with his childishness since day 1. When I worked at a phlebotomist for a mostly rural servicing hospital I heard a ton of "I've voted Republican all my life but this is ridiculous" and it hasn't stopped.
4. He has had absolutely nothing good happen in the foreign arena, and has had many mishaps that very deeply embarrassed him.
5. He's starting doing "typical politician" things, like the backtracking on tweets and the walk to the church today.
6. Even with everything possible going right for him in 2016 he barely squeaked by with a 70k vote margin
7. He's taking a deeply authoritarian turn, and even a lot of Republicans aren't fine with that.

We've got 5 months to go, and a looooooooooot can happen, but Trump is at an insane deficit right now.


Yes, there's too much problems for a same president, he's also directtly responsible at least partially in all of them (deficit, trade war, covid incompetence, country racism, inequality, division)

Thus Biden, even if brighter than an orange, is smelly like fuck.
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Jun 2 2020 05:35am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 1 2020 11:54pm)
I'm starting to get more confident that Trump will not stay in office. There's a lot of reasons why.

7. He's taking a deeply authoritarian turn, and even a lot of Republicans aren't fine with that.


Aren't fine with it is a lonnnnnnng way from willing to do anything about it. And that includes changing votes. Trump voters are voting Trump.

Only way he loses is if other voters actually, you know, vote. And have their votes correctly accounted for. And- def a reach here but who the fk knows anymore- Trump may not be willing to transition peacefully. That's enough 'big asks' to warrant a healthy level of nervousness.
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Jun 2 2020 05:44am
im for 2a and against a lot of the deployed military and thugery from police forces. who tf is cheering lol
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Jun 2 2020 06:20am
Quote (chemoshots @ Jun 2 2020 07:35am)
Aren't fine with it is a lonnnnnnng way from willing to do anything about it. And that includes changing votes. Trump voters are voting Trump.

Only way he loses is if other voters actually, you know, vote. And have their votes correctly accounted for. And- def a reach here but who the fk knows anymore- Trump may not be willing to transition peacefully. That's enough 'big asks' to warrant a healthy level of nervousness.


We agree on one thing. Regardless of "trump voters" being "not fine with it" they would never vote Biden. Period.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 2 2020 05:54am)
I'm starting to get more confident that Trump will not stay in office. There's a lot of reasons why.

1. He has not had any signature legislation or accomplishments.
2. The country is in a serious state of unrest.
3. Republicans have just generally not been okay with his childishness since day 1. When I worked at a phlebotomist for a mostly rural servicing hospital I heard a ton of "I've voted Republican all my life but this is ridiculous" and it hasn't stopped.
4. He has had absolutely nothing good happen in the foreign arena, and has had many mishaps that very deeply embarrassed him.
5. He's starting doing "typical politician" things, like the backtracking on tweets and the walk to the church today.
6. Even with everything possible going right for him in 2016 he barely squeaked by with a 70k vote margin
7. He's taking a deeply authoritarian turn, and even a lot of Republicans aren't fine with that.

We've got 5 months to go, and a looooooooooot can happen, but Trump is at an insane deficit right now.


The big one for me is that federalizing the response to the protest means the buck stops with him. No governors or mayors to blame then.

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The big one for me is that federalizing the response to the protest means the buck stops with him. No governors or mayors to blame then.


i had the same thought. he's losing his Trump card for november. he could have said "in my next 4 years we're gonna change how these things are handled". instead he's "handing" them.

when the DJJ hit like 30k i thought nothing could stop trump in 2020. but now i realize a pandemic, race war, riots, and healthcare crisis might just be the right cocktail. at this point id bet on him not winning, but still see it as a solid race. mostly thanks to Creepy Joe. if we had a competent minority centrist DNC candidate it would be night night.
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Jun 2 2020 06:45am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2020 07:35am)
i had the same thought. he's losing his Trump card for november. he could have said "in my next 4 years we're gonna change how these things are handled". instead he's "handing" them.

when the DJJ hit like 30k i thought nothing could stop trump in 2020. but now i realize a pandemic, race war, riots, and healthcare crisis might just be the right cocktail. at this point id bet on him not winning, but still see it as a solid race. mostly thanks to Creepy Joe. if we had a competent minority centrist DNC candidate it would be night night.


Probably the best time in recent history for a third party or independent to make a run for the white house. Regardless of your political stripes. people are mad as hell and rightly so. Seems 'we the people' need to clarify our Bill of Rights? Police state can't understand the plain english.
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Jun 2 2020 06:46am
these are the people you are defending
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Richmond Police Chief William Smith: “One incident that is particularly poignant, that truly illustrates the seriousness of the issues we’re facing. Last night protesters intentionally set fire to an occupied building on [West] Broad Street. This is not the only occupied building that has been set fire to in the last two days. But they prohibited us from getting on the scene. We had to force our way to make a clear path for the fire department. The protesters intercepted the fire apparatus several blocks away with vehicles and blocked that fire department’s access to the structure fire. Inside that home was a child.”
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