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May 7 2020 12:25pm
Quote (Ghot @ May 7 2020 01:24pm)
But that's not what happened.

If you must know, I'd do the same thing. That's all ya can do. I definitely would NOT grab the business end of a shotgun. Well, unless I was Bruce Lee or the equivalent.

I think you should base your arguments on what happened rather than the assumption you seem to have that when white folk get bored they grab their guns and go out hunting for a black guy to assault. LOL


Considering your history the fact that the people are opposite race is important.
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May 7 2020 12:26pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 7 2020 02:25pm)
Considering your history the fact that the people are opposite race is important.




It almost sounds like you think you KNOW my history. I must have just misinterpreted what you said. :/
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May 7 2020 12:27pm
Quote (Ghot @ May 7 2020 11:24am)
But that's not what happened.

If you must know, I'd do the same thing. That's all ya can do. I definitely would NOT grab the business end of a shotgun. Well, unless I was Bruce Lee or the equivalent.



I think you should base your arguments on what happened rather than the assumption you seem to have that when white folk get bored they grab their guns and go out hunting for a black guy to assault. LOL


So let me get this straight. You would apologize for being white and suspicious and then get in the car with them like a good boy? Seems like a death sentence to me.
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May 7 2020 12:32pm
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So let me get this straight. You would apologize for being white and suspicious and then get in the car with them like a good boy? Seems like a death sentence to me.


Well since race is NOT important to me, I wouldn't apologize for being white.
But trying to outrun a shotgun, or grab one out of someone's hand is.... about the stupidest thing you can do.

Which part of that don't you understand. Because I can definitely explain it to you.

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May 7 2020 12:33pm
Quote (Ghot @ May 7 2020 02:10pm)
You mean: what would I do if two white guys drove up (knowing I had been doing this yesterday as well... AND that I had a criminal record), and pointed guns at me and asked me what I was doing?

I'd say... well I can see where this might look suspicious, but I'm just jogging.


/e But this is all just speculation. Under no circumstances, would anyone ever catch me jogging.


Its not a crime to job every day. You are really going out of your way to legitimize this.


Quote (Ghot @ May 7 2020 02:32pm)
Well since race is NOT important to me, I wouldn't apologize for being white.
But trying to outrun a shotgun, or grab one out of someone's hand is.... about the stupidest thing you can do.

Which part of that don't you understand. Because I can definitely explain it to you.


He has the right to be left alone though. There was no crime witnessed. Kidnapping individuals at gun point is usually illegal.


Quote (excellence @ May 7 2020 02:21pm)
new rule: always cross the street when you see angry southern rednecks walking towards you


Blacks need to arm themselves. Gun control is racist anyway.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 7 2020 12:35pm
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May 7 2020 12:34pm
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Its not a crime to job every day. You are really going out of your way to legitimize this.


how is it that someone knows you have a criminal record by sight? Freudian slip because he was black?
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Quote (thundercock @ May 7 2020 01:12pm)
That would certainly be different because law enforcement plays a critical role in society. Those magic clothes are a pretty important distinction because it tells society that they are law enforcement and not some random kidnapper.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest#United_States

If citizens can arrest citizens when a crime is committed in their presence, why do we defend cops when they kill, but freak out when the McMichaels do it?
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Quote (Santara @ May 7 2020 12:50pm)
Do they have magic clothes?


Do you think under Georgia law they did anything that assumed criminal liability before the shooting, that would preclude a selfdefense argument? In Georgia, arrests cant only be made by folks with magic blue clothes and a tin star. Its not a law I agree with, but its pretty hard to argue that someone should be locked up for exercising the legal rights granted to them by the state code.
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May 7 2020 12:36pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 7 2020 02:35pm)
Do you think under Georgia law they did anything that assumed criminal liability before the shooting, that would preclude a selfdefense argument? In Georgia, arrests cant only be made by folks with magic blue clothes and a tin star. Its not a law I agree with, but its pretty hard to argue that someone should be locked up for exercising the legal rights granted to them by the state code.


They weren't though. This isn't what happened. Their was no observed crime. You are applying a law to a situation it does not apply to.

I would agree it is hard to argue that people obeying laws should be arrested. It is not crime to jog while black even in Georgia.

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May 7 2020 12:39pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 7 2020 02:36pm)
They weren't though. This isn't what happened. Their was no observed crime. You are applying a law to a situation it does not apply to.




Uh, reasonable suspicion. Not because he was black, but because he was TWICE "jogging" in the same area, and he had a criminal record, which McMichaels already knew about because he worked for the AG's office.

/e And someone called 911 as well.

/ee On a side note... in 63 years I've never seen a black guy jogging on the street. Even in Cali... the birth place of joggers.

This post was edited by Ghot on May 7 2020 12:45pm
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