Quote (fender @ Feb 20 2020 04:11pm)
you're wrong. i gave you every chance to overthink and change your stance, telling you how your repeated insistence on downplaying the current rise in right wing populism and violence, by pointing to times when it was worse, looked - but you just kept doubling down - and now you clutch your pearls over the only logical conclusion that leads to.
here's a more fitting version of your sky analogy: we're both looking at a brown sky, we both claim we want it to be blue, and while i'm saying "i hate this brown sky, people should know this is neither normal nor acceptable", you say "well, it's not THAT brown, is it? also, it has been much browner in the past. ackshually, it's the least brown it has ever been".
and again, i have no magic button to turn off racism. educating people surely helps. holding political parties and their representatives to a minimum standard of truth-telling, and aggressively fighting back against blatant propaganda and fear-mongering, protesting and opposing those people wherever they assemble to show them their ideas are objectionable and disgusting...
but i'm sure you have a pretty good idea that there aren't any foolproof ways to eliminate bigotry for good, that's why you keep insisting i present policy solutions, even though i told you from the very start there's no such thing. you know what might actually help? travel and international food court vouchers for afd voters and trump supporters, haha...
that being said, let me reiterate the point i made in my previous post: even the 'just angrily yelling at nazis and not actually doing anything substantial' caricature you conjured up, in order to mock my opposition to fascists and bigots, would STILL be better than just marginalising the problem by 'correctly' pointing out that the sky has been browner once...
U seem lost, let me guide you.
Is radicalization a problem? Yes. Here we agree.
Is it an existential problem? No. Here I think we agree u just think it's more of an issue than I do.
Is it a combatable problem? Largely no. Here I also think we agree, yet when I pointed out that I think media scrutiny for publishing manifestos is far more realistic to combat and yields better results it seemed to upset u.
Honestly u just got mad that I said it's not an existential problem, even tho that was a bit of a throwaway comment rather then my point. And here we are 5 posts later with u pretending like I'd say horrible things to black people despite me trying to steer the conversation back into productive waters repeatedly.
One of my real ideas was exposing right wingers to other cultures via food and community events. So it seems we're in agreement on that aspect too. I'm just a bit confused why each of ur posts read like were on opposite ends of a spectrum. The constant accusations of marginalizing minorities are just u being rude tbh. I don't mind tho, I can burn time engaging rudeness or earnest conversation.