Its okay with me if you don't need to know why you believe what you do or what forces shape your socialization and culture.

I'm illogical based on anecdote because of you never hearing something in your church.

Does your church encourage recycling and using clean energy over fossil fuels? I would be surprised.

Most teach there is a greater, higher plane, that is your spirit's true home. This is the most environmentally destructive belief I can imagine.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 30 2020 05:16pm

Today i learned that unless i know random church history i'm not a true Christian. I guess by that standard 99% of Christians would fail the bar you've set.

No it doesn't, nor does it discourage it, because guess what? That's not the function of a church.

That's your opinion because your prejudiced view of Christianity, again not consistent with reality. Exxon, BP and every other oil major, miner, etc. doesn't extract resources because God promised them heaven, they do so for money.

if we were honest, we both know consumerism & the yolo lifestyle that leads to destruction is much more aligned with relativism rather than the absolutist mindset of most religions.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 30 2020 05:49pm

TIL the council of nicea is trivial christian history and isnt something thats like the first thing you will learn about in Christian history.

Its like void doesn't understand the basics of his religion or something.

I love hearing atheists tell Christians what's central to their beliefs.

Council of Nicaea is close to irrelevant in contrast to Jesus and the Bible. Overwhelming majority of Christians on Sunday will hear about Jesus, the Bible, some dogma pertaining to either/or, i wouldn't be surprised if not a single person in the US hears a sermon on the Council of Nicaea.

its always a laugh when privileged lefties who worship the central government system (or other powerful figures of their own political leanings like weinstein/clinton/polanski etc.) lash out at others for personal beliefs

Didn't say you weren't a true christian lol. You are so hysteric sometimes. You just don't know church history etc.. that's ok. But stop with the black and white thinking please.




It was very important to Christians who were dying for their beliefs. It was important that there be an orthodoxy of belief established.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 30 2020 07:16pm

I'll be honest, i didn't know, or to be precise i forgot what the council of Trent was about. Reason i forgot about is because it's a detail of a much larger event in an important time in Christianity, the protestant reformation. I can honestly admit this because pretty much everyone is like me, in the sense, humans tend to not retain detailed sub notes of much larger historical events. Like if you quote some WW2 general or specific battle 99% of humanity would have no idea what you're talking about.

I do find it hilarious that you really think knowing some random church history event is what being a christian is about lmao. Atheists are funny this way, so clueless and it truly shows in the autist-level arguments they bring.

Sola scriptura my friend, and as a protestant i don't care for catholic orthodoxy.

I can talk about specific battles of WW2. Battle of the Bulge, largest tank battle in history....I was a tanker...so....Operation Barbarossa the largest military operation in world history, turning point the Battle of Stalingrad, with specific mention of the Pavlov House.

I find it hilarious that you find it hilarious that I run mental laps around you. I'm hitting RUSSIABANK levels of euphoria from you.

I bet I know a lot more than you about theology and the important christian ideas, thinkers, even modern ones. The most influential people on my personal thought are Kierkegaard, Bonehoeffer, and Bubar, all religious existentialist. I currently do mission based work for the nonprofit healing ministry of Jesus. I also understand the difference between slave and master morality and I choose the latter. I'm also a naturalist and believe there is just this reality and I am not moral because I expect to be rewarded. Like a good nihilist I will go back into nothing

Do you think I was always atheist? You don't think I was socialized into my regional religion too? Do you think we are that very different?

Who requires this of you -- this trampling of my courts?

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 30 2020 08:24pm

Most Christians don't go out of their way to learn anything more than the basics and id argue that most churches arent even equipped to teach that well, so what they learn in church isnt all that important to whats actually important to the belief. Theres lots of foundational knowledge you dont learn until after high school. You usjally dont even have the basics down in a field until youve got a bachelor's. Personally I like knowing the history of the things I believe, and knowing the societal forces that shaped the current implementation. Then again I'm naturally curious, a trained skeptic, and welll educated. Those things are often a luxury even in modern America.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jan 30 2020 08:46pm

http://www.renewable-energysources.com/

My estimate seems pretty accurate.

I think solar is a bad example too because we buy the solar panels from China, and they emit tons of toxins and CO2 during production.