Provide medical care then deport.

From what I can find online, the $100 billion dollar estimate is from a "study" by The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). They're an organization with a mission to "stop illegal immigration" and "reduce legal immigration".

Many articles online have criticized their "study" due to flawed and biased methodology. For instance, they use a total number of undocumented immigrants that is higher than any other organization's reporting by ~1 million. They also use citizen children of undocumented immigrants in their spending calculations but not their revenue calculations because "All the costs the taxpayers incur because of (the citizen children of undocumented immigrants) are the direct result of illegal immigration". The FAIR study estimated an annual cost of $8,075 per person, so not including those citizens would reduce the estimate by more than $43.6 billion alone. At the same time, FAIR doesn't count the amount in taxes that these citizen children will pay/are paying. They only count the usage.

This is just one example. The Cato Institute details the flaws of this "study" in far greater detail and explains it better than I can if you're interested: https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-study-fatally-flawed

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Oct 1 2019 01:53am

Is this post about immigrants in US, or immigrants in EU that US sent ?

The thing is, FAIR is right to include the so-called citizen children of illegal immigrants. As far as I am concerned, when they were born here, they were not "subjects to the jurisdiction thereof" as required by the 14th amendment.

I don't agree with FAIR in wanting to limit legal immigration, I want it to be easier. We are a nation of immigrants. At the same time, I don't wish to see all these people who did their immigration the wrong way rewarded the same as people who did it the right way.

Can't change the constitution on a whim. The US doesn't surrender jurisdiction because you're visiting they are subject to our laws.

Plus if you're born in the US you're a citizen of the US. It has always been like this and you can't play word games to change historical facts.

If you want proof they are under our jurisdiction you could do an inmate look up in any county and see all the Hispanic names.

We just haven't had that constitutional convention.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 1 2019 04:09am

You guys are the ones changing the Constitution to your whims, pretending "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" meant "our laws affect you," when it meant "and you're not subjects of a foreign jurisdiction."

Absolutely nothing in common law or US law conferred birthright citizenship.

A lot of interpretation there bub. My Constitutional reading style is read the words, and take the words as they are.



I'm not changing the Constitution to my whims, I'm taking what it says and using proper definitions. You're just wrong in this instance.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 1 2019 05:10am

The only thing you're doing is refusing to grasp context, tbh. So yes, you are warping what they meant.

You're interpreting. You're not supposed to interpret original intent...that's just making stuff up. They wrote it as they wanted it. They could have done it differently and worded it the way you wish it to be...why didn't they say what you want it to mean? Because they didn't anticipate Mexico being south of US?

The law was written by guys who came here and became Americans....the take the words for what they are is congruent with that sentiment, Mr. Well regulated militia....prepare for inspection because well regulated to the FF probably meant a registry and inspections....I know they didn't write that, but they meant it in their heart of hearts. See, I'm doing it.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 1 2019 05:41am

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

AND.

The word and means there is an extra condition to be met.

If they were intent on conferring birthright citizenship, why is there an extra condition?