Quote (Santara @ Sep 10 2019 10:44pm)

Most poignant for me after all these years:

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Quote (Ghot @ Sep 11 2019 10:14am)

Mental illness is NOT fake news. What IS weird is how those that are mentally ill are dealing with their mental illness.
Why has this rash of shootings just happened... fairly recently. Things like this didn't happen with the prevalence, that they are happening today. And there were just as many "troubled" folk, just as many guns... etc.



If I was a non tech country and wanted to overthrow a highly technical country... I would find people that were unhappy with their own country, or lot in life, and re-enforce those feelings.
Destabilization is much easier than a military confrontation, you know you will lose.

Somewhere along the line, a lot of folks in the US have gotten the notion that they don't "deserve" their lifestyle, their good fortune, etc. Then ofc, this leads to believing that defending your lifestyle, culture etc., is somehow wrong.
The US pretty much needs to stop listening to other countries that for w/e reason, seek to "direct" our beliefs and actions.

Being understanding and empathetic is fine... up to a point. When being that way starts to affect how we live, what we believe... it's time to take a step back and reconsider.




/e There has been a huge paradigm shift. It used to be us against them. Now, it's us against ourselves. Maybe we've been erroneously assuming that only super powers can engage in propaganda. What with the internet and all the new tech....anyone can become propaganda pushers.

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 11 2019 01:14pm)

Mental illness is NOT fake news. What IS weird is how those that are mentally ill are dealing with their mental illness.
Why has this rash of shootings just happened... fairly recently. Things like this didn't happen with the prevalence, that they are happening today. And there were just as many "troubled" folk, just as many guns... etc.



If I was a non tech country and wanted to overthrow a highly technical country... I would find people that were unhappy with their own country, or lot in life, and re-enforce those feelings.
Destabilization is much easier than a military confrontation, you know you will lose.

Somewhere along the line, a lot of folks in the US have gotten the notion that they don't "deserve" their lifestyle, their good fortune, etc. Then ofc, this leads to believing that defending your lifestyle, culture etc., is somehow wrong.
The US pretty much needs to stop listening to other countries that for w/e reason, seek to "direct" our beliefs and actions.

Being understanding and empathetic is fine... up to a point. When being that way starts to affect how we live, what we believe... it's time to take a step back and reconsider.




/e There has been a huge paradigm shift. It used to be us against them. Now, it's us against ourselves. Maybe we've been erroneously assuming that only super powers can engage in propaganda. What with the internet and all the new tech....anyone can become propaganda pushers.

Quote (IceMage @ Sep 11 2019 01:13pm)

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48031/the-falling-man-tom-junod/

Very well written article on "jumpers" and this particular guy.

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 12 2019 12:32am)

The middle east is the modern day Hitler, only with far less technology. The middle east doesn't want peace...they want "their way".... everywhere. Same as Hitler did. If we or someone, doesn't stop them soon... it will be too late. In 500 years, the EU, the US etc., will look like the middle east... a wasteland with no semblance of civilization left.
We should, as I mentioned, go into the middle east, in force, and eradicate the problem. We should also put the SJW and diversity idiots on the front lines. Let themj see, up close and personal, why they are idiots who don't have a clue.


The UN is a joke. It gives leaders who can't manage to bring their own countries into civilized existence, a vote in world politics. IMO, this is exactly why Nikki Haley left the UN, when she did.



We, the world, are at a weird place in history. We are IN a world war, but it a war of beliefs and words, rather than with bullets. It's still just as deadly as a war with bullets, it's just not as obvious. The losses however, will be just as great, if not greater... if the civilized countries on this planet...lose.


/e Rant, mostly finished.

Quote (Ghot @ 11 Sep 2019 11:38)

The history books will say... Strongest country in the world, destroyed by kids with iPhones.

Used to be a country needed some serious black ops folks to propagandize another country. Doing it to their own people was easy though.

NOW however, propaganda is hella easy. The world is so interconnected, anyone can do it. This is one of the thing I meant when I said... people had to keep their eyes open... all the time.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 12 2019 08:34pm)

How are you any better than those you hate?
If anything you are worse, calling yourself civilised and calling for mass murder.
If everyone in the middle east should die because a few lunatics call for actions exactly the same as what you are (except much less horrific) how are you any better or moral than the terrorists?

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 13 2019 11:01am)

Eradicate the problem and mass murder are not at all the same. Please don't reword things I have said.

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 12 2019 08:01pm)

Eradicate the problem and mass murder are not at all the same. Please don't reword things I have said.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 12 2019 09:48pm)

No its definitely mass murder.
You putting it a different way does not change the meaning of what you said, what you advocate is horrific and sickening and you need to reflect on that.