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Quote (ssdrmstre @ Jan 21 2019 02:03am)
are you suggesting it should be illegal to be stupid?

from the looks of the post you'd be in jail


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Quote (GLYC123 @ Jan 21 2019 01:17am)
Well, it depends on your definition of a loss. Casualty numbers are:

58,193 : American casualties.

Vs. 1.1 million North Vietnamese soldiers casualties + 250,000 South Vietnamese soldier casualties.

I really wouldn't call that a victory for Vietnam.



It’s not cod mate kd ratios don’t matter it’s more the fact you got ran out of Saigon by the Vietcong
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It’s not cod mate kd ratios don’t matter it’s more the fact you got ran out of Saigon by the Vietcong


It actually does matter in the context of war as that's how wars have been won traditionally.
You really don't have much leverage when you have no army.

The United States left due to political opposition to the war.
So the United States was already gone for 2 years when Saigon was taken.
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It’s not cod mate kd ratios don’t matter it’s more the fact you got ran out of Saigon by the Vietcong


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Quote (GLYC123 @ Jan 21 2019 11:56am)
It actually does matter in the context of war as that's how wars have been won traditionally.
You really don't have much leverage when you have no army.

The United States left due to political opposition to the war.
So the United States was already gone for 2 years when Saigon was taken.



I suppose the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were resounding successes judging by this metric as well then
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Quote (dro94 @ Jan 21 2019 08:02am)
I suppose the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were resounding successes judging by this metric as well then


You're talking about internal issues within cultures and countries themselves. Of course that isn't easy to manage.

You can't just kill people to solve that. However, even in those contexts, even casualties does play a role if you want to establish a new power in those countries. Which, may sound grim, but that's reality.

What's your alternative to this?

At least they weaken the state of radical terroristic groups versus allowing them to freely conquer and grow without opposition.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 21 2019 07:32am
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GL justifying Iraq war 2 which spread ISIS. A dog fart will smell better.
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GL justifying Iraq war 2 which spread ISIS. A dog fart will smell better.


Can you imagine what it would be like if we didn't intervene? Isis would be much more powerful. Also, can you imagine if the allies would have intervened earlier in WW2? I think most rational people think that trying to stop radical groups from terrorizing the world is a good thing.



Enjoy smelling that dog fart.

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Not true. Spread Isis? They are weaker. Can you imagine what it would be like if we didn't intervene? Isis would be much more powerful.

Also, can you imagine if the allies would have intervened earlier in WW2?

Enjoy smelling that dog fart.


can you imagine if France let you get massacred at Yorktown ?


GL justifying Iraq war 2 which spread ISIS, dodge moar.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 21 2019 08:46am)
can you imagine if France let you get massacred at Yorktown ?


GL justifying Iraq war 2 which spread ISIS, dodge moar.


Please see chart above. Thank you!

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