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Nov 6 2018 03:30pm
Quote (ChrisKz @ Nov 6 2018 03:23pm)
No, but that isn't what I asked for. Studying the impact of voter ID laws without actual cases within a society as organized as ours would be redundant.

I'm sure there probably are countries out there that have voter ID laws and they more than likely have zero issues because they have small populations and not nearly as much diversity as the U.S currently does.

What I'd really like to see is people having lack of ID, like drivers licenses or any other ID that they may use in replacement of that. Uh, I mean data showing that people that the left claim don't have ready identification on them at most times.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States

u can start your reading there, specifically the section on the history and disparate impact. it answers nearly all your questions, i'd say. as well as a rundown of the difference by states.

unless, of course, you just wanted some leftist to bring you a single study for an increasingly specific question for you to lazily and faux-eloquently counter. im a bit lost on why you're asking to be spoonfed on an issue that's fairly well studied by both the right and the left, as well as having recent SCOTUS judgements. if you've only seen rhetoric and terrible arguments you're not very well read, both sides have somewhat compelling data, as well as international comparison.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 6 2018 04:22pm)
you have never seen a single study on the impact of voter ID laws?


I wonder how the Standing Rock Sioux in North Dakota feel about it.
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Nov 6 2018 03:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 6 Nov 2018 22:26)
according to a zealot from the far left.

listening to you on my place on the political spectrum is like taking financial advice from High Times.

i offered plenty of examples of practices democrats use to also influence the vote, and admitted that depending on how you define voter disenfranchisement they may not apply to your perspective. i'm not going to waste my time digging up sources to argue with you, you're pure boredom fodder and i'm simply not that bored. the fact that you got an earnest response to that monstrosity of a shitpost is reason enough for you to celebrate. i've noticed you dont get much play around here anymore, Sad! i guess it's true what they say, a piece of shit moronic hack poster can only last so long before people realize they're intellectually equivalent to a vegetable and start to ignore them.


you seem mad. so mad in fact that the irony of making the effort to 'justify' not providing sources, while claiming not wanting to waste your time to actually support your idiotic narratives with facts, seems lost on you. i had a good chuckle though, thanks.
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Nov 6 2018 03:40pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 6 2018 10:55am)
They get punished by going to prison... when they get out and complete parole there's no good reason they should be second class citizens for life.


this anyone who thinks people should be made 2nd or 3rd class citizens permanently obviously doesnt wanna live in a democracy anyways
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Nov 6 2018 03:41pm
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you seem mad. so mad in fact that the irony of making the effort to 'justify' not providing sources, while claiming not wanting to waste your time to actually support your idiotic narratives with facts, seems lost on you. i had a good chuckle though, thanks.


name calling, the last resort of the wrong :rofl:
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you seem mad. so mad in fact that the irony of making the effort to 'justify' not providing sources, while claiming not wanting to waste your time to actually support your idiotic narratives with facts, seems lost on you. i had a good chuckle though, thanks.


if you think that by drawing an insult you've affected my mood you're even less smart than i thought. insults are the language i speak in, you should be able to relate. your insults are a poor man's version of mine, and you've stolen a few straight off me.

you believe i should provide a source that backs up the DNC doing the opposite with regards to minority populations than the GOP does? we live in a 2 party system, not the fucking mess of a system you live in, so the parties are always polar opposites. GOP splits the black vote, DNC unifies it. but if each and every voting district had racial demographics equal to the national race demographics the DNC wouldn't ever win an election. you think they can beat a 70% white demographic in literally every district? and you need a source for me to back this claim that's dripping with more face validity than your ancestor's hands in jew tears?

there, now i've explained myself, insulted you sufficiently for one day, explained why i dont need sources, and explained why you're dumb to ask for them. even shoehorned in a nazi joke. enough for today i'd say.
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Quote (thesnipa @ 6 Nov 2018 22:41)
if you think that by drawing an insult you've affected my mood you're even less smart than i thought. insults are the language i speak in, you should be able to relate. your insults are a poor man's version of mine, and you've stolen a few straight off me.

you believe i should provide a source that backs up the DNC doing the opposite with regards to minority populations than the GOP does? we live in a 2 party system, not the fucking mess of a system you live in, so the parties are always polar opposites. GOP splits the black vote, DNC unifies it. but if each and every voting district had racial demographics equal to the national race demographics the DNC wouldn't ever win an election. you think they can beat a 70% white demographic in literally every district? and you need a source for me to back this claim that's dripping with more face validity than your ancestor's hands in jew tears?

there, now i've explained myself, insulted you sufficiently for one day, explained why i dont need sources, and explained why you're dumb to ask for them. even shoehorned in a nazi joke. enough for today i'd say.


you really take this all extremely seriously and personally, don't you? well, keep raging, kid - just don't assume that your immature little insulting sprees and hilarious logic and equivalence fails (referring to the two party system 'argument') are an adequate replacement for a well argued point supported by actual evidence.

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classic projection:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-georgia/hacking-allegation-shows-peril-of-georgia-republicans-twin-election-roles-idUSKCN1N90MP
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Nov 6 2018 04:03pm
Just got back from voting, 5th time today. I knew 4 people's names & addresses in my neighboorhood and knew they weren't voting so took it upon myself to carry on their civic duty, otherwise how else are we going to get rid of the evil orange man and his crony republicans?

#resistatanycost #myvotescount #democracy

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 6 2018 04:03pm
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Nov 6 2018 04:08pm
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Just got back from voting, 5th time today. I knew 4 people's names & addresses in my neighboorhood and knew they weren't voting so took it upon myself to carry on their civic duty, otherwise how else are we going to get rid of the evil orange man and his crony republicans?

#resistatanycost #myvotescount #democracy


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Nov 6 2018 04:15pm
So this black older guy was ahead of me. He went in, immediately took his license out and was attempting to hand it to them to verify his identity, they didn't take it.

After I walked out I was thinking to myself, how incredibly easy it would be to actually cast fake votes. Literally, they just ask for your address and then ask for your last name. The average person probably knows a handful of people in their city and where they live who aren't voting. It would be incredibly easy to just drive around town, drop in, say this is my address, then give that persons last name and cast a vote.
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