Quote (thesnipa @ May 21 2018 10:15pm)

While I agree about the liklihood they're lying court of law doesn't really apply, as they're terrorists not in court. And in a world in which many claims can be checked quickly via satellite sometime wrong answers aren't all that problematic. You just resume torture when the satellite images show there's no secret ISIS base where the terrorist claimed there was.

I find the torturing of future plans to be silly tho, as well as confessions of being in a terrorist organization. wont take long for anyone to claim they are ISIS under the knife.

Quote (majorblood @ May 21 2018 03:40pm)

torture doesn't work
waterboarding isn't torture in the same level that the torture that doesn't work is

would you rather be waterboarded or have nails driven through your hands?

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 21 2018 01:50pm)

Neither work so....

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 21 2018 05:50pm)

Neither work so....

Quote (majorblood @ May 21 2018 03:51pm)

there is evidence to the contrary

Quote (Plaguefear @ May 21 2018 11:10pm)

Depends what you are after, my hero chopper read made a career out of getting people to give up valuables from torture.

Quote (ThatAlex @ May 21 2018 12:39am)

Antonin Scalia once posed the classic dilemma of whether we should torture a person who has information about a nuclear bomb that would go off in Los Angeles. If torture could save the lives of millions of people, I think it should be used because I generally subscribe to utilitarianism. But the problem is that we can't simply disregard the 8th Amendment.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 21 2018 02:13pm)

There were also FBI agents chasing swans all over the park in Washington DC based on information received from torture.

They will say anything to get you to stop, including shit that's not true. Even if you say it gets real information, it's laced with so much false information that it's basically not possible to reliably extract the truth.