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Mar 10 2018 12:22am
Quote (Scaly @ Mar 9 2018 10:07pm)
Don't be a pleb.

It's perfectly valid to be skeptical of Trump's diplomatic capabilities. If you're not worried about Trump meeting with the dictator of a hostile, quasi-nuclear power then you're an idiot.

That said - he has the chance to do something great. It's just that it's also an opportunity to royally fuck shit up and make the situation much worse.


It's like you simpletons can only think in one dimension and don't have enough synapses firing to see the cause and effect of whats happening with this situation. The reason why NK is all of the sudden toning down the rhetoric and behaving dovish is precisely because Trump took such a hard line stance against them. It was essentially political jostling to feel each other out.

Now it's impossible to predict what exactly is going to come of this, but to pretend that Trump was just some bumbling buffoon that had no impact on the situation we see today is pure dishonesty.

Quote (Skinned @ Mar 9 2018 10:31pm)
I've just seen him attack working families through health insurance and tariffs set to decimate jobs.

He is weakening the US on the world stage. Regional powers are threatening our allies and the executive doesn't even seem aware.


Derp.

Tariffs make foreign goods more expensive which results in higher business for domestic producers. That means companies with workers here benefit, and as a result those workers/local economies benefit. Of course there are always negatives to tariffs but there are also benefits. Foreign companies will choose to invest capital stock in the US (build factories and their goods here) to avoid the tariffs which once again is good for our domestic economy.

Read paragraph 2,3,4 from this link.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/business/economy/jobs-report.html

You're full of shit, you know you're full of shit but you continue to peddle your bullshit regardless of reality. This is what i'm referring to as REEE. Crying about something just because it's sponsored by Trump.
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Mar 10 2018 12:24am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 10 2018 01:22am)
It's like you simpletons can only think in one dimension and don't have enough synapses firing to see the cause and effect of whats happening with this situation. The reason why NK is all of the sudden toning down the rhetoric and behaving dovish is precisely because Trump took such a hard line stance against them. It was essentially political jostling to feel each other out.

Now it's impossible to predict what exactly is going to come of this, but to pretend that Trump was just some bumbling buffoon that had no impact on the situation we see today is pure dishonesty.



Derp.

Tariffs make foreign goods more expensive which results in higher business for domestic producers. That means companies with workers here benefit, and as a result those workers/local economies benefit. Of course there are always negatives to tariffs but there are also benefits. Foreign companies will choose to invest capital stock in the US (build factories and their goods here) to avoid the tariffs which once again is good for our domestic economy.

Read paragraph 2,3,4 from this link.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/business/economy/jobs-report.html

You're full of shit, you know you're full of shit but you continue to peddle your bullshit regardless of reality. This is what i'm referring to as REEE. Crying about something just because it's sponsored by Trump.
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Economic forecasters predict losing tens of thousands of jobs btw for a net loss, the same thing that happened when you guys did this last time (Bush 2).

Btw

Now what is the REE thing?

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 10 2018 12:27am
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Mar 10 2018 12:29am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 9 2018 11:24pm)
Economic forecasters predict losing hundreds of thousands of jobs btw for a net loss, the same thing that happened when you guys did this last time (Bush 2).

Btw


You mean kind of what's happening in China or Germany where they have tariffs on some of our goods? Oh wait...they have massive exports, massive production, massive industries.
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Mar 10 2018 12:39am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 10 2018 01:29am)
You mean kind of what's happening in China or Germany where they have tariffs on some of our goods? Oh wait...they have massive exports, massive production, massive industries.


You keep saying that over and over as if that changes our situation. Like you struggle with object permanence or something. You keep ignoring my other question too.

We are not Germany or China. What is good for them and us are different things. They are socialists and all the sudden you want to emulate their economic systems. Again what is good for them and what is good for us is vastly different.

How many Chinese cars do you see driving around America? Vs ford, Chevy, etc. I think Hyundai might be theirs. Probably not though.

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Mar 10 2018 12:56am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 10 2018 12:39am)
How many Chinese cars do you see driving around America? Vs ford, Chevy, etc. I think Hyundai might be theirs. Probably not though.


what, like a Ford Focus? Buicks? Cadillacs? Volvos?
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Mar 10 2018 01:45am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 9 2018 01:36pm)
my guess is if you are in NK, and i doubt that, you were lucky enough to be put in the preferred caste.

good thing you didnt end up a poor farmer.

how many of your fellow citizens have you ratted on to send them to death camps?

you're a sick person or a liar.



I never said I was from, or lived in, the DPRK. In fact I’ve always been open about that.

My father was born and raised there though.
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Mar 10 2018 02:02am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 10 2018 12:39am)
You keep saying that over and over as if that changes our situation. Like you struggle with object permanence or something. You keep ignoring my other question too.

We are not Germany or China. What is good for them and us are different things. They are socialists and all the sudden you want to emulate their economic systems. Again what is good for them and what is good for us is vastly different.

How many Chinese cars do you see driving around America? Vs ford, Chevy, etc. I think Hyundai might be theirs. Probably not though.



Tariffs are a protectionist policy, not a socialist policy. How many American cars do you see in China or Germany?

Fact is, if we have a trade deficit, we can use tariffs to equalize that. Retaliation will hurt them more than it will us.
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Mar 10 2018 02:05am
Quote (Scaly @ Mar 9 2018 09:12pm)
If you don't criticise him on anything at all then yea - you are. Because he is objectively bad at so many things.
Telling the truth, lying and forming sentences at all to name but a few.
You can agree with individual actions and policies but if you agree with everything he says and does then you're a cultist... And a horrible person.


You have missed the point. Trump can be criticized for things, and that's good! However, other people in this forum don't acknowledge anything good he has done, but equate us to Trump "cultists", if we defend something he's doing (that we think are right). You can't have the cake and eat it too. It goes both ways



This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Mar 10 2018 02:08am
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Mar 10 2018 02:12am
Quote (JohnMiller92 @ Mar 10 2018 01:05am)
You have missed the point. Trump can be criticized for things, and that's good! However, other people in this forum don't acknowledge anything good he has done, but equate us to Trump "cultists", if we defend something he's doing (that we think are right). You can't have the cake and eat it too. It goes both ways


If he doesn't back out of the DPRK meeting like a whiny little cuck I'll be proud of him. If he gets somewhere in the negotiations, I'll say he deserves a Nobel prize. Let's keep an eye on it.
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Mar 10 2018 02:21am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 10 2018 12:12am)
If he doesn't back out of the DPRK meeting like a whiny little cuck I'll be proud of him. If he gets somewhere in the negotiations, I'll say he deserves a Nobel prize. Let's keep an eye on it.


You will be proud of Trump? What a bunch of bologna

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Mar 10 2018 02:22am
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