Yes... any perspective on foreign policy apart from your own is childish.

Maybe good guys and bad guys is simplistic, but it's not a bad description of actors on the world stage. For instance, I think we can agree that human rights are a good thing, so international actors that work to expand human rights across the world are better than actors who don't. I think we can agree that the Iraq war was a mistake, it hurt our credibility on the world stage, it was bad for the region, so you could consider the US a bad actor in that circumstance. Russia intervening in the American and European elections might be in their interest, but it's a violation of international norms, which makes them a bad actor in those circumstances.

From an American perspective(not a Russian one like you have), Russia is generally a bad actor on the world stage. Their interests don't align with ours, they don't have the same values.

You were going to vote for the orange guy either way, I'm not sure how exposing an unfair primary process benefits you. Probably just an RT talking point.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 14 2017 07:54am

@Ghot why are you talking about ads while the real problem is thousands of fake accounts and associated posts/tweets ?

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 14 2017 08:00am

hm

got a john oliver video on it?

I'm talking about the stupidity of this topic. Maybe that didn't come through clearly, due to translation difficulties.

What exactly is this topic about? Are you trying to help the US by letting us know, that there are countries trying to sow propaganda in the US?
We kind of already know this. This is not news.

Or are you trying to say that we should tell Google, Facebook and Twitter, who they can accept ad money from?
Or are you trying to tell Americans that there are ad bots, and that not all of them are from Americans?

I got some news for you...we already know this.



/e



Ya know, you could just add that to your sig.




/ee


Here, have a look at who has influence in the US, these days. Google (or Alphabet) is #65 on the Fortune 500 list, by the way.

http://fortune.com/global500/list/



Just a quick scan through the list...I see that China has way more influence than Russia could ever hope to have. Just thought I would point that out.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 14 2017 08:20am

This is a real subject and new information/sources are revealed each new day so i just update it.
Do you think this story will end up there ? I think not.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY

4 millions views in 24 hours


This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 14 2017 08:29am

It's only a real subject, if we assume that all this is not already common knowledge.



This topic is like....

Oh no, there is propaganda!!! Well no shit.

Yep, we know that too. You do know that the US, pretty much invented the internet...right?
The things you're saying now, are the same things that were said when radio and then TV were invented.

It'll all work itself out, in the long run. People that don't already know, will learn, that just because it's on the internet, doesn't make it true.

The other big lie is the one that it reached “120 million Americans”

Reach can be as high as the billions for popular pages in America because most counts are duplicate. The 126 mil Americans number is simply bullshit.

This is in addition to using fake criteria for “Russian Propaganda”

Most of the images are from 4chan and posted on meme pages

This number is only for facebook
And only for the "internet research agency" (troll farm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
IRA has published 80,000 times on the network and 29 million users have received these publications on their news feed, bringing this figure to 126 million taking into account the sharing.

So "4chan" jokes, thanks, but i will pass.
Btw, EndlessSky, i guess it's time for you to inform your governement and also UK they are wrong about Russian influence... Hurry up they need your expertise...

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 14 2017 10:03am