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Oct 31 2017 06:28pm
Quote (ChrisKz @ Oct 31 2017 07:25pm)
I just find all of this follow up a joke though. Everybody here assumes that views all claim the same moral idealism, instead of different systemic ideals or even possibly simple observations made void of any personal, emotional investment. I see everybody here say the same things over and over and it is the least intelligent debate I've seen in a while on these forums.


Intellectual enough to blabber on like a whiner but not give an opinion.

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Oct 31 2017 06:29pm
Quote (IceMage @ 31 Oct 2017 18:24)
I mean, there's not much to talk about after a terrorist attack, unless it's a really serious one. People died, it's probably a Muslim, perhaps a white mentally ill/right-wing extremist, and now there's the ideological discussion. More Muslims banned, Trump supporters support white supremacy(liberal response to white supremacist), etc.


It's a proven fact that almost every mass shooting was done by a democrat.
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Quote (Scaly @ 1 Nov 2017 01:12)
Fuck's sake...
Can we get past page one of a terror attack thread without instantly descending into bigotry and idiotic bullshit?


people lie dead and maimed in the streets and your concern is bigotry (which isnt even true)

Quote (fender @ 1 Nov 2017 01:20)
no, this was a muslim, so obviously ALL muslims are evil. also, the emperor's travel ban would clearly have prevented this, so liberals literally murdered those people and msm is lying about it because they want to see americans dead. if you can't see this you are a commie muslim sympathiser, that much is clear...


a very "elaborate" response to legitimate criticism of our precious religion of peace that produces terror attacks almost on a daily basis

are you really that stupid you moron?
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Quote (Scaly @ Oct 31 2017 06:12pm)
Fuck's sake...
Can we get past page one of a terror attack thread without instantly descending into bigotry and idiotic bullshit?


I don't give a fuck if its politically correct or not, I'm going to say what everyones thinking:
No manlets should be allowed into this country. Full manlet ban. Anyone under 6' height should be turned away at the border. Anyone under 6' should not be allowed to own or operate a motor vehicle or buy a gun in America
Attacks like this shortcakes could have been stopped before he ever had a chance. We could have just build cars to have ignition switche a foot out the sunroof and it would never have occurred
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Quote (Scaly @ 1 Nov 2017 02:12)
Fuck's sake...
Can we get past page one of a terror attack thread without instantly descending into bigotry and idiotic bullshit?


see, thats the issue: you and fellow lefties consider calling out things how they are "bigotry". a significant percentage of muslims hold views which are without a doubt unacceptable and make integration into our western societies impossible.
how big this share of intolerant fundamentalists among the entirety of muslims really is, is up for discussion. but even if it's just 5 or 10%, thats still a huge issue which wont go away by ignoring it and singing the Internationale.

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Oct 31 2017 06:31pm
Quote (IceMage @ 31 Oct 2017 20:28)
Intellectual enough to blabber on like a whiner but not give an opinion.

GC -->


I did give an opinion there, and you assuming I didn't is ironically what you'd call GC worthy. I just posted that I find these sorts of reactions that I see everywhere to be memey and full of poop.
If you want my opinion on this terrorist attack, it is just another terror attack. There are bad people on both sides. But I do think that the west and the east don't get along and that we should be in our own places. If they come here to cause havoc, why can't we do the same there? Well, at least our crazies, right?

That is spoken from an eye for an eye perspective, and when it comes to violence I don't think there is any other proper reaction, beyond moral self indulgence.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 31 2017 07:29pm)
I don't give a fuck if its politically correct or not, I'm going to say what everyones thinking:
No manlets should be allowed into this country. Full manlet ban. Anyone under 6' height should be turned away at the border. Anyone under 6' should not be allowed to own or operate a motor vehicle or buy a gun in America
Attacks like this shortcakes could have been stopped before he ever had a chance. We could have just build cars to have ignition switche a foot out the sunroof and it would never have occurred


Now everyone knows you're a woman.
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Oct 31 2017 06:32pm
Quote (IceMage @ 1 Nov 2017 00:24)
I mean, there's not much to talk about after a terrorist attack, unless it's a really serious one. People died, it's probably a Muslim, perhaps a white mentally ill/right-wing extremist, and now there's the ideological discussion. More Muslims banned, Trump supporters support white supremacy(liberal response to white supremacist), etc.


There's another way. Open and honest discussion of the causes.

It's not just Islamic theology. I think even our most dedicated islamophobes understand that. An honest appraisal will also reveal Islamic theocracies to be a contributing factor. But it is #notallmuslims :-P so why is it these individuals in particular?
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Quote (Goomshill @ 31 Oct 2017 20:29)
I don't give a fuck if its politically correct or not, I'm going to say what everyones thinking:
No manlets should be allowed into this country. Full manlet ban. Anyone under 6' height should be turned away at the border. Anyone under 6' should not be allowed to own or operate a motor vehicle or buy a gun in America
Attacks like this shortcakes could have been stopped before he ever had a chance. We could have just build cars to have ignition switche a foot out the sunroof and it would never have occurred


What?

Quote (Scaly @ 31 Oct 2017 20:32)
There's another way. Open and honest discussion of the causes.

It's not just Islamic theology. I think even our most dedicated islamophobes understand that. An honest appraisal will also reveal Islamic theocracies to be a contributing factor. But it is #notallmuslims :-P so why is it these individuals in particular?


You can't claim simple theology in this case though, and it is a job for both theologist and anthropologists. Their religion is so integrated into their norms and their norms are so integrated into their interpretation of their theology that they are one and the same.

This post was edited by ChrisKz on Oct 31 2017 06:33pm
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Quote (IceMage @ 31 Oct 2017 18:24)
I mean, there's not much to talk about after a terrorist attack, unless it's a really serious one. People died, it's probably a Muslim, perhaps a white mentally ill/right-wing extremist, and now there's the ideological discussion. More Muslims banned, Trump supporters support white supremacy(liberal response to white supremacist), etc.


riiiighhhhtttt....



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