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Americans do not vote based on policies, they vote based on feelings and party lines.
Here in australia i voted for julia gillard based on her campaign promises, when she broke those promises i voted her out.
Apparently in america doing the exact opposite of what you said you were going to do is perfectly fine.

I vote for a person based on policies, if they lied about all of their policies i would not support them anymore and i would certainly not bend over backwards trying to defend obvious deficiencies.
Why does trump inspire such loyalty from people he showed no loyalty to?
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 9 Sep 2017 02:47)
Americans do not vote based on policies, they vote based on feelings and party lines.
Here in australia i voted for julia gillard based on her campaign promises, when she broke those promises i voted her out.
Apparently in america doing the exact opposite of what you said you were going to do is perfectly fine.

I vote for a person based on policies, if they lied about all of their policies i would not support them anymore and i would certainly not bend over backwards trying to defend obvious deficiencies.
Why does trump inspire such loyalty from people he showed no loyalty to?


as a foreigner, i obviously don't know many trump supporters in person (except some german ones who fell for the edgy "meme war" and "political outsider who tells it like it is" shtick).
but from what i see on this forum and american media in general, i think there are four main reasons for ppl that are still shilling hard for trump:

1) some are just outright stupid and actually buy into his alternative fact based narratives / propaganda - they don't realise what's actually going on.
2) some people are just simply too proud to admit they were wrong and fooled by this lying sack of shit - so they resort to "trolling" and make this a debating exercise, seeing how far they can get with pivoting, deflecting, spinning, hypocrisy, projecting, and alternative facts.
3) i guess many just treat political parties like their favourite sports team: rooting for and supporting them no matter what. part ignorance, part "tradition"
4) some genuinely don't care about most of his policies and react to the dogwhistles - the borderline racist statements, the feeling that it's ok and that there's nothing to be ashamed of if you're a hateful, narrow-minded bigot

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 8 2017 05:47pm)
Americans do not vote based on policies, they vote based on feelings and party lines.
Here in australia i voted for julia gillard based on her campaign promises, when she broke those promises i voted her out.
Apparently in america doing the exact opposite of what you said you were going to do is perfectly fine.

I vote for a person based on policies, if they lied about all of their policies i would not support them anymore and i would certainly not bend over backwards trying to defend obvious deficiencies.
Why does trump inspire such loyalty from people he showed no loyalty to?


everyone votes based off being persuaded, thinking a majority of people vote rationally is laughable
Quote (fender @ Sep 8 2017 07:05pm)
as a foreigner, i obviously don't know many trump supporters in person (except some german ones who fell for the edgy "meme war" and "political outsider who tells it like it is" shtick).
but from what i see on this forum and american media in general, i think there are four main reasons for ppl that are still shilling hard for trump:

1) some are just outright stupid and actually buy into his alternative fact based narratives / propaganda - they don't realise what's actually going on.
2) some people are just simply too proud to admit they were wrong and fooled by this lying sack of shit - so they resort to "trolling" and make this a debating exercise, seeing how far they can get with pivoting, deflecting, spinning, hypocrisy, projecting, and alternative facts.
3) i guess many just treat political parties like their favourite sports team: rooting for and supporting them no matter what. part ignorance, part "tradition"
4) some genuinely don't care about most of his policies and react to the dogwhistles - the borderline racist statements, the feeling that it's ok and that there's nothing to be ashamed of if you're a hateful, narrow-minded bigot


sums up your post

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everyone votes based off being persuaded, thinking a majority of people vote rationally is laughable

sums up your post


feel free to choose whatever shoe you think fits you best...
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 9 2017 01:47am)
Americans do not vote based on policies, they vote based on feelings and party lines.
Here in australia i voted for julia gillard based on her campaign promises, when she broke those promises i voted her out.
Apparently in america doing the exact opposite of what you said you were going to do is perfectly fine.

I vote for a person based on policies, if they lied about all of their policies i would not support them anymore and i would certainly not bend over backwards trying to defend obvious deficiencies.
Why does trump inspire such loyalty from people he showed no loyalty to?


Because he is an outsider. The American people showed a huge amount of interest in Ron Paul back in 2007-8 and Trump is a carryover of that desire for change. Trump deserves praise because Clinton would be America's Merkel. She would have literally shit this country down the drain to her Rothschild friend (Lynn De Rothschild revealed in a Podesta email ) via forced immigration. If we did not have Trump, could any of us have had a chance to not vote Clinton in given all of the propaganda and corruption in the DNC?

Trump has loyalty because we're all waiting for him to start throwing politicians in the noose. We're all on the edge of our seats waiting for the Clinton foundation to be taken down. Without this, without the wall, we're setting up for a civil war. American Politics is a two-term program. I think many of us are biding our time hoping that Trump is going to wreck shit in his last 4 years. If he drops the ball, or walks away, You will see violence. And every day more and more of the baby boomers pass away, so we're getting closer and closer to a population who has not been raised to accept information from the television as the only means of obtaining knowledge. The cat is out of the bag regarding central banking, Israel, and using immigration as a weapon. It is only a matter of time until people are clamoring for an honest money supply.
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Because he is an outsider. The American people showed a huge amount of interest in Ron Paul back in 2007-8 and Trump is a carryover of that desire for change. Trump deserves praise because Clinton would be America's Merkel. She would have literally shit this country down the drain to her Rothschild friend (Lynn De Rothschild revealed in a Podesta email ) via forced immigration. If we did not have Trump, could any of us have had a chance to not vote Clinton in given all of the propaganda and corruption in the DNC?

Trump has loyalty because we're all waiting for him to start throwing politicians in the noose. We're all on the edge of our seats waiting for the Clinton foundation to be taken down. Without this, without the wall, we're setting up for a civil war. American Politics is a two-term program. I think many of us are biding our time hoping that Trump is going to wreck shit in his last 4 years. If he drops the ball, or walks away, You will see violence. And every day more and more of the baby boomers pass away, so we're getting closer and closer to a population who has not been raised to accept information from the television as the only means of obtaining knowledge. The cat is out of the bag regarding central banking, Israel, and using immigration as a weapon. It is only a matter of time until people are clamoring for an honest money supply.


a textbook 1 right there...
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Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Sep 9 2017 03:02pm)
Because he is an outsider. The American people showed a huge amount of interest in Ron Paul back in 2007-8 and Trump is a carryover of that desire for change. Trump deserves praise because Clinton would be America's Merkel. She would have literally shit this country down the drain to her Rothschild friend (Lynn De Rothschild revealed in a Podesta email ) via forced immigration. If we did not have Trump, could any of us have had a chance to not vote Clinton in given all of the propaganda and corruption in the DNC?

Trump has loyalty because we're all waiting for him to start throwing politicians in the noose. We're all on the edge of our seats waiting for the Clinton foundation to be taken down. Without this, without the wall, we're setting up for a civil war. American Politics is a two-term program. I think many of us are biding our time hoping that Trump is going to wreck shit in his last 4 years. If he drops the ball, or walks away, You will see violence. And every day more and more of the baby boomers pass away, so we're getting closer and closer to a population who has not been raised to accept information from the television as the only means of obtaining knowledge. The cat is out of the bag regarding central banking, Israel, and using immigration as a weapon. It is only a matter of time until people are clamoring for an honest money supply.


So what you are saying is 50% of the united states is suffering from mental illness?
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Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Sep 9 2017 12:02am)
Because he is an outsider. The American people showed a huge amount of interest in Ron Paul back in 2007-8 and Trump is a carryover of that desire for change. Trump deserves praise because Clinton would be America's Merkel. She would have literally shit this country down the drain to her Rothschild friend (Lynn De Rothschild revealed in a Podesta email ) via forced immigration. If we did not have Trump, could any of us have had a chance to not vote Clinton in given all of the propaganda and corruption in the DNC?

Trump has loyalty because we're all waiting for him to start throwing politicians in the noose. We're all on the edge of our seats waiting for the Clinton foundation to be taken down. Without this, without the wall, we're setting up for a civil war. American Politics is a two-term program. I think many of us are biding our time hoping that Trump is going to wreck shit in his last 4 years. If he drops the ball, or walks away, You will see violence. And every day more and more of the baby boomers pass away, so we're getting closer and closer to a population who has not been raised to accept information from the television as the only means of obtaining knowledge. The cat is out of the bag regarding central banking, Israel, and using immigration as a weapon. It is only a matter of time until people are clamoring for an honest money supply.


>using Merkel as an insult

btw i never realized you were retarded ty for the info

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 9 2017 04:33am)
So what you are saying is 50% of the united states is suffering from mental illness?


It really will make you go crazy, having your peers and media parrot a set of talking points that you know is factually wrong. It's deliberately deceptive, so being well read and educated helps you not fall for the stupid trap.

There is a really good podesta email where he makes reference to the American public remaining "unaware and compliant". Literally used those words...

The truth is propaganda works. And that is why you can see CNN completely misrepresenting and slandering Trump or whoever even though they are repeatedly and knowingly transmitting a falsehood: It's all a lie in order to maintain the "public narrative". Even though CNN and countless media companies are a laughing stock ,they still maintain, or at least purport to maintain, enough sway over public opinion so as to bend reality to fit the worldview that they want 'Americans' to believe.

Go look up that podesta email. He was not inaccurate when he used those two words. So you better wise up to the fact that even though we are a democracy, your opinion does not matter. Counting your vote does. And the entire political and financial system is being rigged in order to count votes and not assess ideas and represent citizens. We're being bamboozled. You, are being bamboozled.

Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 9 2017 04:37am)
>using Merkel as an insult

btw i never realized you were retarded ty for the info


I'm alot smarter than you, kid.

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Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Sep 9 2017 03:55pm)
It really will make you go crazy, having your peers and media parrot a set of talking points that you know is factually wrong. It's deliberately deceptive, so being well read and educated helps you not fall for the stupid trap.

There is a really good podesta email where he makes reference to the American public remaining "unaware and compliant". Literally used those words...

The truth is propaganda works. And that is why you can see CNN completely misrepresenting and slandering Trump or whoever even though they are repeatedly and knowingly transmitting a falsehood: It's all a lie in order to maintain the "public narrative". Even though CNN and countless media companies are a laughing stock ,they still maintain, or at least purport to maintain, enough sway over public opinion so as to bend reality to fit the worldview that they want 'Americans' to believe.

Go look up that podesta email. He was not inaccurate when he used those two words. So you better wise up to the fact that even though we are a democracy, your opinion does not matter. Counting your vote does. And the entire political and financial system is being rigged in order to count votes and not assess ideas and represent citizens. We're being bamboozled. You, are being bamboozled.



I'm alot smarter than you, kid.


If you were in fact smarter than voyaging you would stop buying into every conspiracy theory you see on the internet.
Rothschilds loool.
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