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Apr 11 2016 12:36am
Quote (majorblood @ 7 Apr 2016 21:36)
Keeping illegals out of your country is a shitty law? Keeping out illegal immigrants is racist? Turned a blind eye towards illegal immigrants?

Do you have a single fact to back up anything you say?


Good, I wasn't going to go hunting down which thread we had this discussion in, but I don't mind being the one to bump it instead of you, I suppose.

First off - your first three questions felt pretty rhetorical. I was only answering your final question. Yep, I do have facts to back up what I say.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 6 2016 08:55pm)
i don't think i could go out of my way to save the life of someone who is a ted cruz supporter, i'd rationalize it as doing what is best for mankind


Is that kind of like supporting abortion when it leads to the destruction of your race?
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Apr 13 2016 08:36pm
http://www.tedcruz2016.com

Glorious.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Apr 13 2016 08:36pm
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Apr 13 2016 08:38pm
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But they are criminals.... just because you want to ignore the law does not make them something else.


Entering illegally(unless you've been deported before) is a misdemeanor. Plenty of people have committed misdemeanors, most of whom I wouldn't identify as criminals.

Simply living in this country is not a crime. Entering illegally is a crime.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 13 2016 08:41pm
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Apr 13 2016 08:48pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Apr 8 2016 12:33am)
If it's a shitty law with racist roots and enforcing it would punish a bunch of people for working within a system we pretty much intentionally turned a blind eye toward because we like cheap tomatoes, then yeah, we should probably ignore it. The problem is more than 'a little difficult.'


Maher is right, though. It's one thing to say that deporting millions of people is impossible, it's quite another to say that we shouldn't enforce border law at all. As a sovereign state it's clearly within the rights of the United States to determine who can and can't come into the country.
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Apr 13 2016 09:29pm
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Maher is right, though. It's one thing to say that deporting millions of people is impossible, it's quite another to say that we shouldn't enforce border law at all. As a sovereign state it's clearly within the rights of the United States to determine who can and can't come into the country.


I'll definitely grant you that much, there are decent reasons to have reasonable controls on immigration. The system that we have now is still built on a foundation of laws that were written for straight up bullshit racist reasons during a much more openly racist time, though, and the parts that we've ignored were absolutely to our benefit.

Essentially, at this point, if we just eject or arrest or otherwise punish everyone who's already here, it's a raw deal because our system is currently set up in a way that we absolutely depend on immigrants coming here illegally and getting utterly shit on because being shit on here is a little better than getting shit on in Mexico. As IceMage points out, it's a misdemeanor. They basically shoplifted a bit of 'Merca for themselves, and they've helped to keep America fat and happy while they did it.
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Apr 13 2016 09:32pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Apr 13 2016 10:29pm)
I'll definitely grant you that much, there are decent reasons to have reasonable controls on immigration. The system that we have now is still built on a foundation of laws that were written for straight up bullshit racist reasons during a much more openly racist time, though, and the parts that we've ignored were absolutely to our benefit.

Essentially, at this point, if we just eject or arrest or otherwise punish everyone who's already here, it's a raw deal because our system is currently set up in a way that we absolutely depend on immigrants coming here illegally and getting utterly shit on because being shit on here is a little better than getting shit on in Mexico. As IceMage points out, it's a misdemeanor. They basically shoplifted a bit of 'Merca for themselves, and they've helped to keep America fat and happy while they did it.


I always make sure to include illegal immigrants in my prayers for the cheap fruits and vegetables.
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Apr 13 2016 09:43pm
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