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Mar 20 2016 01:46pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 20 2016 09:41pm)
I'm INTP, she's INFJ. Same approach, but she's more emotionally aware than I am, and I'm more rationally aware than she is.

That you're willing to believe that rubbish casts doubts on your rationality.

Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 20 2016 10:11pm)
we do shame smokers and alcoholics.

Who does? The best I've gotten is an awkward look from the corner of the eye that sort-of-wishes that I wasn't there.

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video games industry.

Well ain't that a surprise.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 20 2016 10:41pm)
Id be interested to compare the myer briggs to astrology..

They're just about as valid.
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Mar 20 2016 01:46pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 20 Mar 2016 11:35)
No, its an attempt by bleeding heart liberals to create a "fat acceptance movement". Thats what they call themselves. They want to relieve the social pressure and shaming they experience, not fight against "piling on more"
I support shaming addicts and tubbies because its constructive and provides the impetus for self improvement. I support medicating and operating on physical ailments, too.
I don't support a doctor lopping off someones arm willy nilly when they come in for a cold or proscribing them a regimen of cyanide any more than I support harassing and hounding fatties until they kill themselves.

We create positive social pressure when our role models are fit, when 'sexy' promotes a healthy lifestyle. Thats evolutionary motivation working for the better, good for it.
When a bunch of whales try to subvert social norms by saying we must accept fat models and create safe spaces where fatties can't have their feeling hurt and live in bubbles- thats doing harm.

I'm particularly fond of the ThInnerBeauty / Project Harpoon movement that developed in reaction to fat-acceptance pressure on the video games industry. It shows how social pressure and shaming can be a force to inspire and promote healthy living.


That's not positive social pressure. It's straight up erasure and telling people that if they're fat, they're not good enough to participate in the public sphere and that anyone who looks like them should be hidden away.

It's all just so that you can strut around and feel like a big man because you told a fat person to jog and eat better, though. Just look at the way that the smugness just drips, here.
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Quote (Gastly @ Mar 20 2016 01:46pm)
That you're willing to believe that rubbish casts doubts on your rationality.

Who does? The best I've gotten is an awkward look from the corner of the eye that sort-of-wishes that I wasn't there.

Well ain't that a surprise.

They're just about as valid.


I don't put much stock in it, but it does do a decent job of illustrating how we are different. :D
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Mar 20 2016 01:48pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 20 2016 01:42pm)
...trying to use will power to overcome addiction is the same as trying to use it to stop a bad case of the runs .


and you'll be the one to tell this to the millions of people out there who have successfully kicked off drugs, cigarettes, overeating, etc?
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Mar 20 2016 01:49pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 20 2016 07:42pm)
...trying to use will power to overcome addiction is the same as trying to use it to stop a bad case of the runs .


I've done that tbh.

I'm the master of my sphincter.
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Mar 20 2016 01:49pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Mar 20 2016 03:46pm)
your suggesting that all morbidly obese people have an emotional disorder is trying to imply that all obese people have an emotional disorder which is actually trying to put the blame solely on the individual and is totally trying to shame them which you said is wrong. You're just a ball of hypocrisy hiding behind the bible.


...serious question ( and I'm asking for others as well ) ...why do you continue to post ?
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Mar 20 2016 01:52pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 20 2016 03:48pm)
and you'll be the one to tell this to the millions of people out there who have successfully kicked off drugs, cigarettes, overeating, etc?


...I am the one who has already said that to thousands of recovering addicts and alcoholics , so yes .
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Mar 20 2016 01:53pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 20 2016 03:49pm)
I've done that tbh.

I'm the master of my sphincter.


...your underpants disagree :rofl:
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your suggesting that all morbidly obese people have an emotional disorder is trying to imply that all obese people have an emotional disorder which is actually trying to put the blame solely on the individual and is totally trying to shame them which you said is wrong. You're just a ball of hypocrisy hiding behind the bible.




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Mar 20 2016 01:55pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Mar 20 2016 01:46pm)
That's not positive social pressure. It's straight up erasure and telling people that if they're fat, they're not good enough to participate in the public sphere and that anyone who looks like them should be hidden away.

It's all just so that you can strut around and feel like a big man because you told a fat person to jog and eat better, though. Just look at the way that the smugness just drips, here.


1) A bunch of SJWs get together and try to create a 'fat acceptance movement' to say everyone who shames fat people is evil and we should have plus sized models and treat fatness as perfectly normal
2) Average, sane people call this nuts and unhealthy and ridiculous
3) The bleeding hearts nutters get to attack the sane people and call them smug dicks who should check their privilege

Fat people shouldn't be hidden away and not participating in the public sphere, they should be exposed and shamed for their body until they change it. Letting them hide away in a corner and hold hands and post on BBW forums while downing tubs of icecream is unproductive. But going the opposite direction and trying to corrupt the ideals of human body image and sexuality? Its as insidious and destructive as it is hopelessly impotent, fortunately. This is the kind of issue where I'm thankful for a base biological impulse driving human psychology, because at least when the fatties try their demented shenanigans, it will be unsuccessful.

Fat people should job and eat better. I do it, most of the world does it. I'm going to call them out on their decadence
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