The changes which are of concern in the old testament would have taken place before 2000 years ago. It's not surprising the old testament is largely the same as what was found in the dead sea scrolls.

Prior to roughly 0 A.D. the new testament was fluid, fun fact about the dead sea scrolls, the guy who hid them was in the middle of a fabrication when that person had to hide the documents.

Yet we have no evidence of these "changes"? Speculation is our evidence?

The dead sea scrolls are dated well before 0 a.d.

This post was edited by Dune1 on Jul 1 2015 02:33pm

There's plenty of evidence of these "changes", we know which documents the stories of the old testament were based on, can identify forgeries through stylistic changes and literary analysis. It's out there, if you are willing to search for it. Pretty interesting.

All of the historians and documents I have read have only supported the ancient text even more. I suppose I'm looking in the wrong place.

I also did a quick search of what you said about the person editing the text of the dead sea scrolls. I've come up with nothing. Do you have a report that states that? I've never heard that accusation before.

It's not something you would come up with searching google. Better start reading academic journals on the matter to get the real history. I'm a chemist though, not a historian so I don't have the links readily available unfortunately.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 1 2015 02:44pm

Because ive seen 3 different Bibles, all written slightly different then the others.

That's the proof.

Also King James version came out in 1611 I think, not a 2,000 year old change...

This post was edited by Diablokgb on Jul 1 2015 03:08pm

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