the point of no return usually has that impact

you guys really cried when it happened? i mean im fine with it if you did , but im having a hard time understanding it. When it happened i was pretty much neutral, of course i wasn't happy about it but i can't say i was sad or anything as i din't knew any of the victims.
To me it was no different then a bombing/terrorist act in x country over seas.

Ps: Sorry if some of you guys find this offensive but it is my view on it.

Considering they openly stated their reasons were because of our interference in the holy land and facilitating the killing of Muslims... yes, I would make that link.


I don't condone killing, but I do acknowledge that 9/11 was peanuts compared to all those who have died as a directly result of our intervention in the middle east over the past 60+ years. The fact that you are going to equate the link between military interference and acts of terrorism with condoning murder just shows you're, well, being H̶a̶n̶n̶i̶t̶y̶ Santara. I'm right, you're wrong, and everybody who disagrees with me hates America.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 10 2013 01:32pm

Well how about radical christians then?
What about the people that spread stupidity and anti-scientific beliefs through the US, to follow their almighty GAWD, which does nothing but hold society back.
Also, prove to me that it was Islamic terrorists that committed this act. There are STILL so many discrepancies with the official report on the towers. I doubt any of the US public has the true story.



Why did you bring Saudi Arabia into this?



I was in 5th grade. Old enough to understand what death means to people. Old enough to understand why my retired father was standing in uniform when I got home.
And yes, WE started it. The US has been fucking around with the state of affairs in other countries for decades. You don't think we've made some enemies?
If it WAS a radical Islamic group that orchestrated the attack, they had a motive. People don't just do shit like for no reason at all.
And like Duff said, it's not because we have freedom. Either someone representing our country did something to piss off the wrong people, or someone FROM our own country had reason to set it up to happen.
We just don't have enough info to pin point it's cause.

On subject though, I was in 4th grade. Nobody would tell us what was happening, but everybody in class had heard other classes or teachers talking about it. About an hour into class she told us. I understood it was a sad event, but couldn't understand why some of the adults were crying. We hadn't seen any footage yet and nobody would give us much more information.



Most of the hijackers were originally from Saudi Arabia. However nationality has little to do with it as one doesn't need to have their country directly attacked to be influenced by 50 years of military action in the region.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 10 2013 01:51pm

Yes, I cried. Having served in the military, I kinda took the attack personally. Watching people leaping to their deaths on live television just does that to people I guess.



Our "interference" in their holy land took place at the request of its government in the face of Iraqi aggression. Were we defiling Mecca? Nope. No outsiders allowed in Mecca. Nah, we were "just there," a fatal sin! I guess.

You are making excuses for the inexcusable.

You can't even compare "radical" christians to radical islam. I agree a lot of christians are scientifically illiterate but they aren't comparable to the terrorists of islam. There's a reason there will never be a play called "The book of islam" like there was the book of mormon.

This thread is a reminder of how far I've come intellectually since my conspiracy days.

Also a little ironic that anti-religious people are using religion as a legitimate justification for the attack.

Maybe because 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals.



Nationality is used because tribalism is an even more complex topic. Suffice it to say tribes are smaller than nations, so I use nationality for the sake of expediency.