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May 19 2013 10:01am
Quote (Gastly @ May 19 2013 11:43am)
i don't think that they can be lumped into one big group like that


When I say "most" I actually mean Majority which can be 51%

Look at how they treated that Doctor in PakistAN who gave blood samples to America - the Goverment did that because the people wanted them to.

Look at how Jews were treated in Germany in the 1940s , It wasnt just Hitler - it was the vast majotity of people who condoned the Nazi aggresion.

I think that Muslim extremism is a great fear factor in those countries , and thank the stars that Christian extremism hasnt the same foothold here in North America.

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May 19 2013 10:25am
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When I say "most" I  actually mean Majority which can be 51%


which countries are you talking about?
i mean - i'm sure that the PLO want to see Israel disappear, both the Christian and the Muslim members of it

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I think that Muslim extremism is a great fear factor in those countries


in which countries?
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May 19 2013 10:57am
Quote (card_sultan @ May 19 2013 06:01pm)
When I say "most" I  actually mean Majority which can be 51%

Look at how they treated that Doctor in PakistAN who gave blood samples to America - the Goverment did that because the people wanted them to.

Look at how Jews were treated in Germany in the 1940s , It wasnt just Hitler - it was the vast majotity of people who condoned the Nazi aggresion.

I think that Muslim extremism is a great fear factor in those countries , and thank the stars that Christian extremism hasnt the same foothold here in North America.


between two groups 51% is by no means a de facto majority, you're essentially dismissing half of the muslims
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May 19 2013 11:30am
Quote (card_sultan @ 19 May 2013 12:05)
Is this the reason Muslums hate Jews so much - They are actually petty children who are just extremely jealous?
Actually no need to answer, Question already answered.


what I meant is that God never makes a difference between the creatures.
we are all equal.
all have the same opportunities
nobody has privileges
there is no race privileged.
there promised people.
only exists deserving.
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May 19 2013 11:45am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 19 2013 10:15am)
...the Transfiguration of Jesus offers strong evidence that both Moses and Elijah are saved but it is through the eventual sacrifice at Calvary that they would finally enter Heaven .

...as for not accepting Gods justice that is not our option . He is not subject to our opinions or judgments .

...I noticed in another thread you surmised I was a Catholic but I am in fact a Protestant .


accepting it is not our option that's true, but believing it IS our option.... you don't know if you're correct or if I am correct, so you and I are both choosing to believe a certain way..... if we KNEW you were right, then yes I would be choosing to believe something that is false and then I would be at fault.... we don't know who is right, so we cannot determine who is wrong.... you and I have different views of God, which is also not something that can really be settled because again neither of us know the correct answer.....

I choose to base my beliefs on God being more like a loving father who would accept his children into his house as long as they have done no major thing to others of his children.... denying him is an insult to God alone, which is why he is able to forgive that and forgive anything which is stated in the bible.... and if you are/were Catholic then you also believe in forgiveness of all sins, even mortal sins.
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May 19 2013 11:59am
Quote (LordTrogdor @ May 19 2013 01:45pm)
accepting it is not our option that's true, but believing it IS our option.... you don't know if you're correct or if I am correct, so you and I are both choosing to believe a certain way..... if we KNEW you were right, then yes I would be choosing to believe something that is false and then I would be at fault.... we don't know who is right, so we cannot determine who is wrong.... you and I have different views of God, which is also not something that can really be settled because again neither of us know the correct answer.....

I choose to base my beliefs on God being more like a loving father who would accept his children into his house as long as they have done no major thing to others of his children.... denying him is an insult to God alone, which is why he is able to forgive that and forgive anything which is stated in the bible.... and if you are/were Catholic then you also believe in forgiveness of all sins, even mortal sins.


...and now I get to introduce you to a greater truth . When it comes to being allowed into the presence of God even the most insignificant sin by mans standards weighs as heavily as the most heinous offense . Grading sin by man made parameters is irrelevant to salvation .
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May 19 2013 12:01pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 19 2013 05:59pm)
...and now I get to introduce you to a greater truth . When it comes to being allowed into the presence of God even the most insignificant sin by mans standards weighs as heavily as the most heinous offense . Grading sin by man made parameters is irrelevant to salvation .


I'll agree, but do you think there is no gradation of sins at all? Once again I find no fault in your logic, because it is us trying to decide what we think matters most to God which is impossible to know without understanding God.
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May 19 2013 12:56pm
if you believe or not, God exist or does not exist. Soo if you believe and he does not exist your believe wont change that fact.
On the other hand, if you choose not to believe and God exist your none believe wont matter to God what soo ever, But it must matter to you for you have a opinion about the subject.
If God does not exist, there is no way to prove that . So to say you believe there is no God, is like believing in fairy tales.
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May 19 2013 01:33pm
Quote (El Shadday @ May 18 2013 02:19pm)
logical reasoning without fantasies.


belief in god requires one to ignore logic based on faith, i feel like you are a troll

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 19 2013 11:59am)
...and now I get to introduce you to a greater truth . When it comes to being allowed into the presence of God even the most insignificant sin by mans standards weighs as heavily as the most heinous offense . Grading sin by man made parameters is irrelevant to salvation .


according to the bible god also grades sins

This post was edited by Clicquot on May 19 2013 01:35pm
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May 19 2013 01:36pm
Quote (Clicquot @ May 19 2013 07:33pm)
belief in god requires one to ignore logic based on faith, i feel like you are a troll


not necessarily ignore logic..... there's no logical proof God doesn't exist, just as there is no logical proof he does exist....

whether you believe or don't believe, you are accepting a fact that cannot be proven.
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